Warner Bros. Discovery is on the eve of launching Max, its new streaming service that combines the already-existing platforms of HBO Max and Discovery+. But don’t expect Aubrey Plaza to be am…

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    iTunes is literally the same as streaming though.

    You rent access to the content for as long as the platform wants.

    DVD/Bluray are the solution to this… except not everything is released like that…

    In the end, piracy wins… again… like it always has…

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      In the end, piracy wins… again… like it always has…

      Ain’t that the truth. And honestly I don’t want to pirate media. I’d rather pay so I could support content creators, but I don’t want to support this “you don’t own anything, you’re only licensing it out temporarily from corporations and they can fuck you over any time they feel like it” bullshit either.

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            It makes sharing the media easier and the more media is shared, the less people have to buy it or pay to stream it. It’s just an attempt to throw a wrench into a situation that is gonna happen anyway.

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              Counterpoint: I have never shared any DRM free media I got for a fair price with anyone else, because I respect them for that.

              Anything I bought and got annoyed by DRM, or stuff I obtained in other ways is free for all.

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      You rent access to the content for as long as the platform wants

      Yeah I’ve had movies I “bought” on Apple disappear and they just offer a free rental when you finally notice and complain. They expect you to download everything you buy when you buy it and sync it between devices if you want to keep it.

      • @jamesw In the old days, if you bought a dvd, it was your job to make sure it didn’t get scratched up, lost, etc. You had to make sure you kept a DVD player in working order if you wanted to watch it. Likewise for books. You buy the book and it’s your responsibility to keep it intact to read it. So if they let you download it once and keep it forever, that seems reasonable. If they make you download it every time you want to watch it, that’s a service, not a purchase. Asking them to maintain an online service so you can download it again if you lose it, though, doesn’t match the idea of “buying” as much as it matches the idea of “renting”.

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    We’re at the stage where owning media is a news-worthy concept. (and no, iTunes is not owning your media either, it’s licensed, but how crazy would the headlines be if she bought physical media)

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      „they” could have “solved” the necessity for owning a pirate hat. but they fucked up too many times.

      even if you’re ok with just streaming and owning nothing for your money… you need like 6 subscriptions to listen and watch the stuff you want. I’m not willing nor able to spend hundreds for nothing. I used that money to purchase a large hard drive and some cool tshirts from my favorite bands.

      greed is an ugly removed and I am wearing yet again my trusty old pirate hat.

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        Gave up on Netflix a good 10 years ago when they first started quiet rumours about stopping people from accessing other countries catalogues. Immediately spun up an install of Plex and today am sitting on 30+TB of everything-I-ever-wanna-have and won’t be going back. Only access to any paid streaming service I have is D+ via a friends account, and I’ve used it 4x in 2 years lol.

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          What level of quality do you store your content at? 1080p? 4K?

          I want to build my own catalog of Movies also, but I’m afraid of not getting enough Storage for 4K because it costs so much. I mean, sure, I can get 4TB HDDs for 59.99, but how much 4K Content is that?

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            I store almost everything but my few favorite movies in 1080p. but I also let friends request content and I have automatic lists setup to add new stuff as it comes out so I try not to keep 4k, plus watching 4k outside of the house can be stressful on the server so 1080p is good for me, I have about 60tb of 1080p shows movies and youtube series

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              Do you see a major quality difference watching 1080p on a 4K display? And have you tried looking at Streamed 4K vs Local 1080p to see if the difference in quality is there?

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                for me 1080p is fine, I dont have that big of a tv, my concern is just storage space and my laziness. If I cared a bit more I would probably setup a second instance of Radarr to do 4k for my personal viewing, or if I didnt share my library with my family and friends. With 4k comes other issues you normally dont see when streaming since streaming services transcode down the move the bit rate is a lot lower and you dont see any issues, but when streaming locally the bit rate can go well over 100mbit and most tv’s dont have over 100mbit connection, so you need something like an nvidia shield or xbox to not have stuttering, but it does look really nice seeing clear blacks instead of the blocks you get when watching something from like prime video. its comparable to playing the bluray if you have the right setup and file.

                I prefer to do 1080p mainly because I share my library with friends and family and let them request whatever they want, their requests are automatically approved and pulled so my storage space is important, for example someone requested the office, thats like 560gb right there, but I really liked the show chernobyl so I pulled that at 4k and its only 5 episodes and thats already 140gb

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      The thing is…a lot of media will never hit physical copies.

      Has anything from Apple TV+ been released on DVD?

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        Apparently, according to the article at least, she and her husband wanted to watch The Sopranos Top Chef season 20, they couldn’t figure out how to get Hulu+Live to work, so they ended up buying the Sopranos on iTunes.

        But I’m pretty sure The Sopranos had a physical release.

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        She’s going to be appearing in a Disney+ show for Marvel. None of those have ever been released for purchase either (and probably never will be).

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        Which in some jurisdictions is also illegal. So I might as well skip the “payment” part then.

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        Are there good DRM removal tools for iTunes? Googling for it gives the expected result, ie. pages and pages of scammy bullshit that I really don’t have the energy to sort through

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          A good DRM removal tool would be to purchase the media wherever you like to feel morally good. After that you torrent the media so you can actually own a copy.

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    It was a bit unclear for me, but does this article say that HBO Max will become merged with Discovery+? I really hope that’s not true. I have HBO because of the relatively high quality, and I would be willing to pay more just to keep the braindead shit from Discovery from polluting the catalog.

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      Remember when Discovery was an oasis of informative content in a desert of reality TV? I wonder how long before curiosity stream goes the same way

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    When you’re a millionaire+ it’s certainly a lot easier to say “eh, guess I’ll just buy everything I ever want to watch outright.” This hardly seems like news imo.

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    I remember asking years ago “how can I watch movies ethically, both supporting FOSS formats, owning my copy of the content, and paying the creators for their work?” I think the answer has gotten even more elusive now than ever.

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    iTunes isn’t much different from any of the “streamers”. They still license media to you while reserving the right to withdraw it from you at any time, and stream it to you on-demand. The only thing that’s different is the pricing model.

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      You also know where the content is.

      It’s not just the cost of the 20 subscriptions you need to watch the top 20 shows or whatever. It’s also the “which platform actually has it?” Digital purchases, for the most part, are generally not platform exclusive. You don’t have to say “I need HBO (I mean Max) to watch this show and CBS (I mean paramount?) to watch this one”, with 10 different watch lists and each app being fundamentally broken in a slightly different way. It’s not self hosting, but the difference in convenience between buying digital content (even with DRM) and streaming libraries is huge.