• Nakoichi [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    This is so stupid. Anything but just handling the pandemic in a sane way, all these sickos just want to use it as a cudgel against geopolitical rivals/enemies.

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      1 year ago

      Part of a pandemic response is determining the origin so we avoid another one.

      If China had nothing to hide they would open up and cooperate with WHO researchers.

      Cry about it.

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        LOL, using fascist police state rhetoric unironically as an attempt to undermine your opponent’s position. What is happening to the youth of today?

        The WHO, like all other racialized capitalist institutions, work for the USA first and foremost. When the USA uses UN weapons inspectors, and UN human rights inspectors, and diplomats, and NGOs as spies, cover for spies, and operational support for spies, then anyone that is a target of the USA must defend themselves by essentially assuming all of these moves are dangerous to their national security because historically they have been.

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          Years of huffing authoritarian propaganda has left you crippled with paranoid delusions.

          I hope you get some help.

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            LOL. Friendo, I grew up completely surrounded by USA and Euro-centric propaganda. Every single textbook, novel, TV show, movie, children’s activity, museum, friend, family member, every social ritua, social event, public forum, every radio station, every company, every ad, all of it was the most comprehensive and totalizing propaganda humanity has ever seen.

            By proportion, I have gotten so little information from non-USian, non-Eurocentric sources, and that very very small amount is more than enough to dismantle the North Atlantic lie.

            You think I have paranoid delusions but you’re the one who thinks I am subject to “authoritarian” propaganda while the US imprisons more of its people than any other country, generates billions of profit from their slave labor, charges them hundreds of dollars a day to be in prison, charges them extortion prices for basic services like a phone call, then puts them on total surveillance parole while they pay that debt off. You think somehow America is fighting against “authoritarians” while dropping more bombs on North Korea than all bombs from all countries combined in WW2 and North Korea isn’t even the most bombed country in the world - Laos, Vietnam, and Cambodia were all bombed by the USA to levels that boggle the mind. But it’s authoritarian propaganda to talk about the actual espionage the USA commits on the regular.

            Is the School of the Americas also a paranoid delusion? Is the US support for coups against democratically elected leaders also a paranoid delusion? How about CIA black sites where the CIA violates the Geneva Convention but does it on the territory of another country with their permission creating a legal gray zone that allows the US to avoid consequences?

    • Blake [he/him]@feddit.uk
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      1 year ago

      What possible reason could you have to oppose transparency and openness when it comes to pandemic research? The more we can learn the more deaths can be avoided. How is that a bad thing?