Chinese authorities released a newly drawn map this month that claims ownership of nearly all of the South China Sea, an area larger than India, stretching from China’s shores thousands of kilometres to the territorial waters of the Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Brunei, Vietnam and Taiwan.
The English-language Global Times, which communicates policy of the Communist Party government, described it as a “normal exercise of sovereignty in accordance with the law.”
The Filipino secretary of defence sees it differently, calling the new map “control and occupation over the South China Sea.”
In an exclusive interview with CBC News, Gilberto Teodoro says the move “absolutely proves [China’s] intent of expanding and being more assertive.”
“If that’s not stopped, then the whole international rules-based order is in jeopardy.”
He says Chinese control over the South China Sea could imperil the freedom of movement for nations all over the world.
They keep talking about this map of claims published a month ago, but I’ve known for at least a year that they claim a broad swath of territory that basically matches the furthest extent of the Qing Dynasty about 200ish years ago.
I vaguely remember reading about their modern territorial claims on wikipedia, of all places. I remember clicking on the map to look at it zoomed in.
So I don’t get how this is supposed to be new. That said, yeah, historical territorial claims are dubious at best. If we allow them all, then all sorts of people get to simultaneously own Turkey for instance.
edit: I’m trying to decide who the biggest winner would be, if we validated all territorial claims throughout all of history, and associated each one with a modern day state.
I’m thinking Mongolia (Mongol Empire) is the happiest. But the Brits and Spanish are really not far behind. The Dutch and Portuguese (all colonial empires) would be major world powers again as well. The Italians (Rome), of course, are doing quite well, as are the Greeks (Macedonians under Alexander). Iranians (Persia), Turks (Ottomans) and Epygptians all get a fairly similar looking empire and are happy. France (Napoleon) is quite happy, as are Germany (Hitler) and Russia (USSR at its largest, including claims). Poland and Lithuania both come roaring back with the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Japan (Japanese Empire) is doing well, China (various dynasties extended their reach into SE Asia, Korea, etc) has a map larger than their 10-dash one actually and should be happy. We have to give Aztec and Mayan lands to Mexico I suppose, Peru is Inca I guess? Who gets the land Atilla the Hun conquered, I don’t know who Huns were…?
Anyways, it’s been a fun thought experiment. lol I’m thinking either the Brits or Mongolians are happiest.
edit2: I was wrong… If I’m validating all territorial claims, that must include those gotten through marriage.
Austria, with the Austro-Hungarian Empire, had married into basically every royal family in Europe over the centuries. They could stake an indirect, but still valid, claim on basically every European empire. Since all those empires are also getting all their claims, the Austrians win.
While this marriage loophole does apply to most European monarchs, thus giving each of them most of Europe due to the collosal amount of royal inbreeding, I think the Austrians had the most ties.
This article shows you the updated map:
Across Asia, there has been widespread criticism against China’s newly released territorial map. This map includes what is now a “ten-dash line” — an extended version of China’s “nine-dash line,” which it uses to stake its territorial claims in the South China Sea.
https://japan-forward.com/chinas-new-ten-dash-line-map-infuriates-asian-neighbors/
Ahhh thank you. That does clear it up.
You’re welcome. Also note Arunachal Pradesh in India that China is also claiming with its new map.
Holy cow that’s crazy it stretches all the way to frickin Borneo
Hexbear wankers, why are you so silent about imperialism now?
We should start publishing maps that show China with less land and drawn like Winnie the fuckin Pooh. Or maybe just leave it as free real estate.
They’re the biggest fish in the pond, so unless all the other fish actually get together and start defending themselves, it’ll just continue to feed.
The biggest fish in that pond is still the US. Hence why China keeps trying to claim it instead of actually taking the space.
I guess it’s good that the US exists.
It’d be better with neither the US or China.
Then Russia becomes the global dominant power…
Haha good joke.
It is now, it wouldn’t have been prior to Feb of 2022. Even now, you completely remove the US and China from global events freeing up those massively rich resource stockpiles, combined with Russia’s current wartime production, and it’s a war of attrition for everyone else, while Russia quietly annexes former Chinese territory that is rich in coal and oil in the northeast of China. India will probably claim the northwest since that also has some massive oil fields. The only countries that could have opposed Russia on the ocean just disappeared, so they now have the largest Navy by a lot.
The French could oppose them in one theater since they now have the only nuclear powered aircraft carrier in the world, since the other 11 nuclear carriers disappeared with the US, and they also have 3 diesel carriers, out of the total of 34, 9 of which disappeared with the US, and another 3 disappeared with China, so they have a total of 4 of the 23 carriers that now exist in the world. Japan owns 4, England owns 2, Italy owns 2, Australia owns 2, Egypt owns 2, South Korea owns 2, India owns 1, Russia owns 1, Spain owns 1, Brazil owns 1, Thailand owns 1.
The thing is that without China and The US to mitigate the Russian war machine, they’re gonna make significant gains so that they can reclaim dominance, until a new superpower emerges in North America.
Maybe the French, Indians, Australia, and Britain working together could hold them off from retaking a lot of eastern Europe, but… I kinda doubt it.
Maybe.
Tell the chinese they get to make historical territory claims as long as japan gets the same see how they like that
Fuckin hitlers.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Canada’s presence is intended to signal to Beijing that the South China Sea is an international waterway, through which ships of any nation may pass.
China is involved in a great power battle with the United States, which has long exerted outsize influence in the Pacific, following the Second World War.
While stressing that “war is not inevitable,” Frank Kendall warned “China has been reoptimizing its forces for great power competition and to prevail against the U.S. in the Western Pacific for over 20 years.”
“At present, it is very important to oppose taking sides, block confrontation and a new cold war,” Chinese Premier Li Qiang told ASEAN member states during their summit in September.
China has sought to counter American influence among its neighbours, and had modest success in the Philippines under the previous government led by president Rodrigo Duterte.
Manila moved away from its long-standing alliance with the United States and China filled the void, investing in the country through its Belt and Road initiative, paying for infrastructure and gaining influence.
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