Look, we can debate the proper and private way to do Captchas all day, but if we remove the existing implementation we will be plunged into a world of hurt.
I run tucson.social - a tiny instance with barely any users and I find myself really ticked off at other Admin’s abdication of duty when it comes to engaging with the developers.
For all the Fediverse discussion on this, where are the github issue comments? Where is our attempt to convince the devs in this.
No, seriously WHERE ARE THEY?
Oh, you think that just because an “Issue” exists to bring back Captchas is the best you can do?
NO it is not the best we can do, we need to be applying some pressure to the developers here and that requires EVERYONE to do their part.
The Devs can’t make Lemmy an awesome place for us if us admins refuse to meaningfully engage with the project and provide feedback on crucial things like this.
So are you an admin? If so, we need more comments here: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3200
We need to make it VERY clear that Captcha is required before v0.18’s release. Not after when we’ll all be scrambling…
EDIT: To be clear I’m talking to all instance admins, not just Beehaw’s.
UPDATE: Our voices were heard! https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3200#issuecomment-1600505757
The important part was that this was a decision to re-implement the old (if imperfect) solution in time for the upcoming release. mCaptcha and better techs are indeed the better solution, but at least we won’t make ourselves more vulnerable at this critical juncture.
I’m already in talks with some other admins about a potential fork. Initially we’d just roll back ONLY the captcha change, then work on a better implementation and roll it out in a way that doesn’t leave instances exposed.
It would be seamless for most users since it’s essentially the same thing as before, just with the Captcha code still included.
Instead of going to the effort of managing a fork, why not just submit a PR with hCapcha to the base repo 🤣 As a Dev, it’s not that hard.
Sounds good, thank you for your efforts! I think the decision is bad for the current state of the lemmyverse, we need some roadblocks for spam bots.
I think forks and OG projects can live side by side, even more so, they can have a symbiotic relationship. The beauty of open source that we can learn from each other.