cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/16062938

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/16062930

Substance-users who got drugs vetted for fatal contaminants from a now-closed compassion club significantly reduced their overdose rates, keeping them alive during the fatal drug overdose crisis, says a University of B.C. professor involved in newly released research.

The findings, published Thursday in an international drug-policy research journal, tracked 47 participants of a compassion club run by the Drug User Liberation Front (DULF), which received Vancouver Coastal Health funding to test drugs in a University of Victoria lab before selling them to members in a Downtown Eastside storefront in Vancouver

  • Showroom7561@lemmy.ca
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    8 months ago

    People are dying because they are consuming drugs of unknown purity and strength. That is, you don’t know what’s in your drugs and you don’t know how strong the drugs are. There are simple solutions to these problems. Best solution is to provide a safe supply. Second best solution have safe consumption sites and drug testing available.

    You may call that a solution, but that sounds like continuing the problem (that is, substance abuse).

    I think we both agree that safe consumption sites reduce harm. The evidence backs that up.

    But if the government is saying there’s not enough money to continue, what’s the next step?

    The reasons aren’t our concern. Obviously poverty, housing and employment are things we can help people with, but beyond that it’s up to the individual user. As I pointed out the majority of people using drugs will quit on their own in time.

    You know what they say: “Prevention is better than cure.”

    If we don’t know why people are abusing drugs, we will never be able to fix this problem.

    It may be true that some people will simply stop using drugs in their own time (not likely with opioids), the rest die. “Saving them” merely prolongs their inevitable death if they aren’t provided with medical treatment options.

    Would it surprise you to learn that faith based recovery has a success rate of about 5 to 10%? There are other programs that have slightly better results but in general abstinence based treatment is a dismal failure.

    I don’t support “faith based recovery”, simply due to the fact that there are more effective options (like MAT). However, getting 1 out of 10 people to sober up is much better than enabling continued consumption through “safe alcohol consumption sites”, right?

    The first step has to be keeping people alive. The second step is building a relationship with the people so that they feel comfortable accepting help. This can be done through overdose prevention centres and drug testing facilities. The third step would be medication assisted treatment, but not everyone will be receptive to the idea. Therefore we repeat step one and step two.

    Yes, yes, yes, yes. I do agree!

    My original question, however, has not been addressed. With the limited funds available, what approach would be most effective to tackle this problem?

    Is it spending more on safe consumption sites? More on treatments like MAT? More on social programs that keep people from becoming addicts in the first place?

    I think where the government is at right now, they can only pick one, or they can blend all three with less than adequate support for it all. What do we choose?

    On a side note. Why is BC in such bad shape? Safe consumption programs in other cities have saved millions of dollars, further allowing those programs to continue. If BC hasn’t been able to keep the program sustainable, why not??

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      You may call that a solution, but that sounds like continuing the problem (that is, substance abuse).

      Substance-abuse pales in comparison to death. I don’t care if people are addicted to substances as long as they continue to live they have an opportunity to quit.

      But if the government is saying there’s not enough money to continue, what’s the next step?

      The government isn’t saying that. The government is saying there isn’t money to expand the programs. This is primarily political because people on the right have attacked evidence-based addiction treatment.

      what’s the next step?

      More deaths. Either that, or expand safe supply which as previously noted has political opposition from the right. Conservatives are playing politics with peoples lives.

      You know what they say: “Prevention is better than cure.”

      If you want to prevent deaths due to toxic drugs, the obvious answer is to provide non-toxic drugs. You have no control over whether or not people use drugs. The only thing you can do with 100% certainty is provide clean safe drugs.

      It may be true that some people will simply stop using drugs in their own time (not likely with opioids)

      Show proof that opioids is less likely.

      getting 1 out of 10 people to sober up is much better than enabling continued consumption through “safe alcohol consumption sites”, right?

      Not if the other nine are dead, right?

      With the limited funds available, what approach would be most effective to tackle this problem?

      Safe supply and harm reduction. Clean, safe drugs including stimulant would cost very little. In addition the money saved from policing, courts, incarceration plus reduced burden on paramedics and others in healthcare means that even after the government provided safe supply they would still be saving money.

      Ironically the right wing libertarian Cato institute believes the same thing. https://www.cato.org/commentary/economic-moral-case-legalizing-cocaine-heroin#

      As I previously explained, this is political. The NDP is worried about right wing backlash in the approach to an election. Instead of doing the right thing, they have caved to political pressure.