Greetings from new mod team
I’ve started putting together community rules at sidebar
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Team members: Since we don’t have team modmail capabilities yet, let’s use this to intro ourselves to community, as well as to have conversations about the direction of the community, including feedback from community members feedback.
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All: I’d welcome your feedback, comments.
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WRT consent and respect, please also see this post by admins
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Volunteers? If you (including OCC) would like to help moderate and grow this community, please leave a comment here expressing your interest; prior experience modding is not necessary, simply that you have passion for this particular community. No promises that you’ll get added, but a general community of this potential growth/size could use a good sized team of 5 to 10 mods. Please see this rough commentary on what I consider modding to be: https://lemmynsfw.com/comment/552299
The rules were just put in very late yesterday for comments and feedback and theoretically still under construction. There’s not much we’ll do for grandfathered posts… [edited for grammar]
Thanks for your posts and helping to set good examples going forward. Do you have any opinions wrt non-OC sourcing rules?
It’s tricky. I’ll share my thoughts but please bear in mind I’m just talking here - no judgments. I think this is a tough topic.
First I don’t think the distinction between OC and non-OC content is clear. And while the rules show concern for OC creators, technically it’s not great to repost copyrighted commercial photos either. These places thrive on unauthorized posting of content, and there’s no way around it. Having any rules about consent and permission open a whole can of worms about why anything should be allowed to be posted without proper permissions.
On top of this it’s unrealistic to expect people to stop and secure permission before posting. There will be some cases of that but mostly they just won’t. So the rules wind up appearing like ass-covering. As if you know realistically that no one is securing permission, but you can always point to the rules and absolve yourself of blame because you did set some rules. This also seems like a solution with mixed integrity.
So what are we to do? I think a lot of times the ultimate choice mods make is to moderate cases of consent and permission reactively. If you can’t trust others to gain permission, you can at least be very responsive if anyone ever complains. Make it clear how to file such a request, and consider some kind of disciplinary suspensions for users who post such content, just to make them think twice in future.
I dunno… it’s hard. These are just my unstructured thoughts.
Indeed - that word has been used by everyone, including all the admins of this instance, but it is also very apropos. Thank you very much for your honest feedback and I (and perhaps others too) will try to respond more fully later as time permits.
I totally understand the “wild west” appeal of having no rules and this particular aspect. I am totally guilty of it too and I helped build up Reddit NSFW traffic for years doing such. As well as tens of thousands of spammers and karma farmers and repost spambots that have no regard for rules and will do whatever they want to do.
More later…
Here’s how I see the distinctions - will try to put some of this into sidebar too later if this makes sense - after suggestions, recommendations, edits, etc. Whew!
1 and 2c are where some indication of consent is requested/required to comply with lemmyNSFW instance-wide rules, even if the user is not here on Lemmy. Some models may freely have given permissions cart blanche or privately, so you can provide such indication. When in doubt and you are too lazy, don’t post
2a content is generally shared under DMCA fair-use practice and won’t require consent permission.
2b is stuff that may be “fun” and “exciting” to share, but also carry many risks as you have no idea under what context these images may be taken: revenge porn, non-consensual, potenially underage, etc., and would go against rule 5 (Rule Five) No Non-Consensual Content of overall lemmyNSFW rules
Whew - hope this helps. I’m sure I’ve missed some distinctions and special cases…