• ryper@lemmy.ca
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    4 months ago

    the only complaint came from a Russian boxing body with a history of making suspect claims in the past

    And that was only after she defeated a previously undefeated Russian. Sounds an awful lot like sore losers making up excuses.

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      4 months ago

      Sounds an awful lot like sore losers making up excuses.

      Or, as they’re known in the Olympics, Russians.

      This shit is why I say that Russian athletes shouldn’t be able to compete even under the Olympic flag. Russia has cheated and lied so many times that it baffles me that the IOC even lets them participate.

      Or it would if their corruption knew any bounds.

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      3 months ago

      Where are you getting this info? It was an Italian boxer named Angela Carini that started these allegations after 1 punch: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/08/02/sport/who-is-imane-khelif-olympic-boxer-intl

      Carini apologized Friday for her treatment of Khelif. “I’m sorry for my opponent,” she told Italian outlet La Gazzetta dello Sport. “If the IOC said she can fight, I respect that decision.”

      "It wasn’t something I intended to do,” Carini said. “Actually, I want to apologize to her and everyone else. I was angry because my Olympics had gone up in smoke,” she said.

      Her complaint was then taken up by transphobic organizations around the world, including Russian ones: https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/40797618/algeria-imane-khelif-wins-olympic-gold-amid-gender-dispute

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        3 months ago

        So I think that you’re missing that this “controversy” started before this year’s Olympics began. In 2023, a boxing organization (IBA) based out of Russia flagged Khelif as not passing eligibility after she defeated a previously undefeated Russian boxer. Khelif’s disqualification meant the Russian woman kept her undefeated title. I’m lazy & going to copy from Wikipedia here:

        The Washington Post stated, “It remains unclear what standards Khelif and Lin Yu Ting failed [in 2023] to lead to the disqualifications”, further writing, “There never has been evidence that […] Khelif […] had XY chromosomes or elevated levels of testosterone.” The IBA did not reveal the testing methodology, stating the “specifics remain confidential”. At the time, Khelif said the ruling meant having “characteristics that mean I can’t box with women”, but said she was the victim of a “big conspiracy” regarding the disqualification. She initially appealed to the Court of Arbitration for Sport but the appeal was terminated since Khelif couldn’t pay the procedural costs. After the appeal, Khelif organised her own independent tests in order to clear her name and return to boxing.

        Alright back to my own words here. So the article goes on to say that in July of this year, the IBA said Khelif failed the test, but would not release the specifics about why exactly. The IOC said the ruling was “arbitrary” and “without due process”. That is the background that sets the stage for what happened when the Italian quit this year at the Olympics and everyone subsequently lost their shit.

        Here’s the Wikipedia article, though feel free to check out other reputable sites for more detail: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imane_Khelif?wprov=sfla1

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            3 months ago

            So you are confidently answering people with wrong information, pushing hate against an individual, and your reaction to someone who educated you on the matter is just “thank you”? Maybe don’t spread misinformation if you are not certain, and edit your factually wrong comments…

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              3 months ago

              Who am I pushing hate against that doesn’t deserve it? The Italian boxer is a transphobe. I linked sources. I don’t need to edit because it’s not that long of a comment chain and you can see the missing context. That’s how conversation works. I don’t need to exist to your specifications.

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                3 months ago

                You didn’t provide any source about what you are claming. I have seen the interview recording. She has never said anything at all about the other boxer.

                Here is the interview (use a VPN to Italy and translate)

                So to answer the question: you are fomenting hate against the Italian boxer with false accusations (at the best of our knowledge):

                • she didn’t start any allegation about Imane
                • she did not make any remark, let alone any teansfobic remark

                You are effectively the equivalent of people who jumped the gun and started calling Imane a man.

                Usually when you confidently write wrong information is good practice to rectify with an edit.