• haunte@leminal.space
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    3 months ago

    For millennia? For thousands of years? Fascism was an outgrowth of capitalism that’s barely a century old.

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        3 months ago

        Ok, is he here to post? Can you explain his views if you are speaking for him?

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          One of Weber’s main intellectual concerns was in understanding the processes of rationalisation, secularisation, and disenchantment. He formulated a thesis arguing that such processes were associated with the rise of capitalism and modernity. Weber also argued that the Protestant work ethic influenced the creation of capitalism in The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism. It was the earliest part in his broader consideration of the world religions, as he later examined the religions of China, India, and ancient Judaism. Source

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            Weber died in 1920. Fascism had literally only existed by name for a year before he died. He was not arguing about fascism, hence fascism never being mentioned on that Wikipedia page.

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              Fascism was an outgrowth of capitalism that’s barely a century old.

              This was what I was responding to, and the way it’s worded it seemed (to me at least) they were saying capitalism is barely a century old.

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      Man has been around for thousands of years athis current sociointelligent level. It is not hard to extrapolate the current fascist mentalities back through the ages all the way through our barbarous past.

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        If it’s not hard can you do a basic breakdown for us? But for the record the first fascist country was Italy, and hey look at that it was a century ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_fascism

        Can you tell us more about the thousands of years of fascism that existed prior to Italy in the 1920’s?

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          Italy was not first. There was the mongols, the greeks, the spartans and probably many more that only rated a blurb in the history books

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            You are conflating monarchy with fascism for some reason.

            The Mongols were governed by the Khan, who was an emperor.

            The Greeks had multiple kings of the various polises (aside from Athens for a while), until they were united under Alexander the Great, who was an emperor.

            The Spartans were Greek, so it’s weird you listed them separately.

            Fascism and monarchy are both authoritarian, but authoritarianism is not fascism.