In the latest round of the dispute between Elon Musk and Brazil’s top court, a senior judge has accused X of a “willful, illegal and persistent” effort to circumvent a court-ordered block – and imposed a fine of R$5m ($921,676) for each day the social network remains online.
The social media platform formerly known as Twitter, which has been banned by court order since 30 August, on Wednesday became accessible to many users in Brazil after an update that used cloud services offered by third parties, such as Cloudflare, Fastly and Edgeuno.
This allowed some Brazilian users to access X without the need for a VPN – which is also prohibited in the country.
Late on Wednesday, X described its reappearance in Brazil as an “inadvertent and temporary service restoration to Brazilian users”.
But the influential supreme court justice Alexandre de Moraes – who ordered the original ban as part of an attempt to crack down on anti-democratic, far-right voices – on Thursday described the move as a deliberate attempt “to circumvent the court’s blocking order”.
I hope Musk listens to this. But on the off chance he doesn’t I also hope the fines start doubling each and every day.
Issue a warrant for musk’s arrest and request interpol to pick him up. A few days in a Brazilian prison waiting for his court appearance should make him get the point.
and request interpol to pick him up.
Criminal activity should be reported to your local or national police. INTERPOL does not carry out investigations or arrest people; this is the responsibility of national police.
https://www.interpol.int/Contacts/Contact-INTERPOLI know… the route has a few steps.
The 3rd country can reject arresting the person or not extradite him.
This is a bad idea. If breaking the law of any country can result in extradition to that country then people are going to be getting extradited for things like disrespecting the communist party.
Not really applicable here, since making Xitter accessible in Brazil is breaking Brazilian law in Brazil. You very much will get arrested for disrespecting the CCP in China.
Elon is not in Brazil, and making the service available via CloudFlare was not an action taken in Brazil. Brazil should be able to seize assets in Brazil and change how they block access to prevent Twitter from doing business in Brazil, but arresting people in other countries for something like this is extreme.
No, that is why countries have extradition treaties, extradition hearings and/or sign up to other treaties. To make sure law is respected across borders but not simply abused by bad actors.
This also goes for bad actor sicophants that repeatedly and knowingly break a Brazilian law they don’t agree with and then thumb their nose at their legal system.
And even without these treaties it’s known to happen. Examples: The Netherlands does not have an extradition treaty with Dubai, but when the most wanted man of the Netherlands was verified to be there, the Dubai police arrested him, drove him to the airport and chucked him into a Dutch government plane waiting at the airport. That’s the downside of hiding in a country that does not care about individual rights… of their chief decides you should be “not here” they kick you out… no due process, nothing. And just recently the kid of the same guy… also very wanted was found and brought to the Netherlands in the same fashion.
Do you really think America will extradite Elon to Brazil over what amounts to a Free Speech argument?
Would you support Brazil if their government ordered a complete internet ban?
What about what about what about
Hypothetical. Look it up. It is commonly used in discussions. Don’t let new words scare you.
Whataboutism, look it up.
lol lol lol really I promise that I’m far more educated than you
Brazil is not banning the Internet.
Brazil is revoking the permission of a company to do business in Brazil because it refuses to follow Brazilian law and is openly defying a court order.
God, you techno-feudalists are fucking weird.
You are absolutely right. Brazil is not banning the internet. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
Also, if the only way you can feel like you are “winning” a discussion is by changing what other people say, then you simply are not winning at all. You are writing fan fiction about yourself to try to feel clever. It backfired.
You literally described your own actions.
Love how you made it personal when someone responded rationally to you. If you can’t take that, you probably should not engage with other humans.
Yeah, commenting on someone’s comment they made about my comment isn’t personal. It’s interesting how you know you dislike what I said but can’t come up with anything to actually say about it. Maybe you should take that as an indication that you don’t actually know why you parrot the things you do.
lol wow
Stop pushing your personal issues on others
Musk was all to happy to comply with Turkey and India to remove accounts critical of their right wing governments. His justification at the time? He has to comply with the laws of the country twitter operates in.
So odd that it he opts not do the above when its far right accounts attacking the left wing government of Brazil.
It’s almost like Musk isn’t doing this for free speech reasons at all and is just selectively censoring people.
That has nothing to do with what’s happening. Twitter can’t be fucked to appoint a legal team to comply with Brazilian law, so they don’t get to operate there. Simple as.
Would you support Qo’noS if their government ordered a complete leola root ban?
See? I can make stuff up too!
Your point about making stuff up aside… yes, 100%. Who the Hell wouldn’t support a leola root ban, other than Neelix‽
It is really great that you can make stuff up. Hypothetical questions have been useful for as long as people have discussed things. I’m sorry that this hypothetical question offended you so much, but it is entirely different than “making stuff up”.
This guy is disgusting
You mean musk, right?
I mean, that’s a literal statement of fact.
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