Summary

In October 2020, Samuel Paty, a French teacher, was murdered following a false accusation by a 13-year-old student who claimed he’d shown anti-Muslim bias. The girl had made up the story to cover the fact she had been suspended from school for bad behaviour.

In reality, Paty’s lesson on free speech included optional viewing of Charlie Hebdo cartoons, but he hadn’t excluded anyone. The student’s story triggered a social media campaign led by her father, who, along with others, is now on trial for inciting hatred and connections to Paty’s attacker, an 18-year-old radicalized Chechen.

The school will be named the Samuel Paty School from next year.

      • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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        2 months ago

        Do you think they’re trying to achieve peace by beheading teachers for showing cartoons??

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            2 months ago

            Illusion of peace when people aren’t killing teachers in the name of religion. Sure seems like an illusion to strive for.

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        I don’t care who they believe for if they are so upset about a cartoon that they’ll kill people and commit other violent acts. Fuck those people and anyone defending that shit.

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          Nobodys defending that just that these same these phrases are usually said by those who later attack the religious people. Just so you know im an athiest but not a douchebag.

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            And what’s bad about attacking the sort of people who think it’s okay to commit violence in the name of their religion, especially fucking kill people over a cartoon?

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              Absolutely nothing.

              People on the left (myself included) often conflate “recognizing the religion of Islam as harmful brainrot” with “people who follow Islam suck and should be hated.”

              I don’t hate the people, but I sure do hate the brainrot. Same with Christianity, really.

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      Can these people just fuck off with their „religion of peace“ dogwhistle it’s so annoying and obvious

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        I’m not sure what you think is the dogwhistle, it’s directly mocking the claim of Islam being a “religion of peace”

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                  Why would I be nice to bigots? That’s what got us in the whole mess that is another Trump presidency and Europe sliding into fascism in the first place. If you want to have a taste of what tolerating this ”I‘m just pointing out facts“ leads to go back to any random politics subreddit and see what has happened there. I don’t need this in here. I’m tired of it. I‘m not special, I’m like 99% of people out there, I’m nice if you are. Being a bigot isn’t being nice.

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                    I agree with the premise of this statement, although this was about someone saying “religion of peace” to mock the Muslims who say it, I don’t believe that’s bigotry, it’s just irony. Also, who knows, maybe Catholics or some other religion commit more of these acts, but it’s difficult to know through the news alone, and religion of peace is already a Muslim stereotype, fully justified or not.

                    For the record though, I also follow your stance about not being nice to bigots, unjustified hate should only stay in the mind, but that possibly has the risk of radicalising someone further.

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          It’s a racist dog whistle because you are indicting the entirety of a religion based on the actions of a single person and their view of that religion. It is bigoted and ignorant, which is not the solution to this problem of religious radicalization.

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            Nothing racist about it. I don’t care if you’re white, black, or purple. I don’t hate the followers of Islam, but the religion itself is utter trash - as are all religions, and especially Abrahimic ones. Patriarchal bullshit.

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            Islamic extremism isn’t some one off instance. Even violence over cartoons and such isn’t a singular instance. So fuck off defending that shit.

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              Of course it’s not a one off instance. It’s the 2nd biggest religion in the world. There’s a lot of people who identify as Muslim. Just because some of them fall to extremism and commit atrocities does not damn the entire faith. If that’s the case then declare your faith or lack of it and I will fill an unlimited count of its crimes.

              There’s a difference between a religion having an extremism problem, such as Islam and a religion being inherently extremist. You ever consider why Islam has an extremism problem now in modern day and not say, the Islamic golden age?

              Bigoted and ignorant. As much as the extremists you hate. Your just not violent. Yet.

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                I’m not religious. Have at it.

                There’s a difference between a religion having an extremism problem, such as Islam and a religion being inherently extremist.

                There’s a saying about bad apples you might’ve heard. Especially true if there’s loads of those bad apples.

                Bigoted and ignorant. As much as the extremists you hate. Your just not violent. Yet.

                “You’re almost as bad as the fucked up murderous extremists, apart from being murderous.”

                I guess calling them out is almost as bad lmao.