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Cake day: June 22nd, 2023

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  • I think one reason the [IM|microblogging|forum|other communication style] is not yet fully decentralized, but email is, is because:

    1. Email existed and had wide adoption before Eternal September.
    2. It had and has a clear business use, and being interopable with other companies’ choices of email service has clear value.

    The lesson from USENET is rather instructive. Like email, it is defederated, had a standard protocol, and long predated Eternal September. Unlike email, there is no clearcut business use-case, and even though both systems suffered massive amounts of problems of spam and porn, there was no clear (financial) incentive to deal with spam on USENET, other than leaving it up to the end user to use kill files and so on.

    I think IM could be solved much like email, like you say. There is obviously a good business case for it (companies spend untold amounts on things like Slack). When it comes to things that are social media-ish, I think it’s more complicated, as you point out, and probably why it remains in the state that it is.





  • My word, yes. This.

    Ever since the 90s, I’ve wondered this about IM. IRC is good for many uses, but too complicated for many, so all these private options popped up, and continue to still be with us instead of an open protocol for IM. Jabber/XMPP tried to do it. Matrix, too.

    And yet, we still use all this cruft like Slack and Skype and so on.

    IMHO, nearly every other type of communication should figure out how to do it like email, including IM and microblogging and Reddit-like things.

    Maybe Space Karen might end up actually resulting in innovation and adoption of good tech, but just not in the way that he had planned. XD