The Merits of… Necrophilia | David Mitchell’s SoapBox

Well, I guess, but… you could argue that Zionists are mostly seen to be purely Jewish due to the nature of the movement.

You’re entirely right.

But see if the political view is only held by members or a certain religious group (even if not all members of said religion accept said political thought), it’s easy to conflate it, so that you can ban anyone opposing said political thought based on “they’re discriminating against me because of my religion”.

Fuck twitch.

You disgust me.

That’s the point. They’re ridiculing the hypocrisy, not the sexism.

Not saying not to do what you say but Jewish population in America is only 2% this is not enough to make a change

Israel has a population of ~9.75 million.

The US has a population of ~335 million people.

As of 2020, the American Jewish population is estimated at 7.5 million people, accounting for 2.4% of the total US population.

If All American Jews managed to convince just 1.3 Israeli’s, that’d be the entire population influenced.

But perhaps you’re saying 2% isn’t enough to affect change internally within the US? Probably not true either, 2% is 1/50 people. And as we all know from tinfoil wearing conspiracy nuts, Jews have disproportionate representation in politics. (I do not know or care whether that statement has any veracity; I’m saying it sarcastically.)

“You can’t censor Nazis without jeopardising everything journalism is about.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope

And you can and should, btw, censor Nazis. Or you’ll end up like Dumbfuckistan.

Edit: What happens if Australia’s equivalent of Donald Trump gets in office and enact the policy mentioned above?

See because they have reasonable limits on supporting fascism publicly, there’s less of it going around, so they don’t exactly have an equivalent demented child-raping fascist to vote for.

It’s also more complex than “they sanctioned someone who is adamant about being a literal nazi, so we have to go show support to fascism”.

Germany learned their lesson 80 years ago. The US thinks anything goes. And how is that going, recently?

Even with the absolutist free speech the US is known for, there are still reasonable limitations to it. Like fighting words and yelling fire in a crowded theatre.

You understand things are complex yet advocate for something absolute? O.o

“This number is meaningless”

That’s what you said.

Even if it’s just of verified deaths, then you can still double the victim number, and still have 35% of the victims be women and children.

So is the number truly meaningless, or are you saying “it’s meaningless” just as an attempt to downplay the genocide Israel is committing?

Fuck man, they went a little overboard with the propaganda at your school and left out all the maths?

“My support of political ideologies which directly propose genocide is completely non-violent, trust me bro.”

I genuinely don’t know whether you’re being sarcastic or not.

Yes, despite the smiley-spam.

Oh wow, thanks for the information.

Makes sense. A lot. I’ll read up on that, thanks again.

Why not both?

Your arguments suck. Get some better ones.

I don’t trust your understanding of psychiatry to be so well versed that you could say with authority that this kid is beyond help.

He may or may not have Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASPD), but that simple fact alone isn’t anywhere near enough to say he’s beyond help.

https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/conditions/antisocial-personality-disorder/

#Treating antisocial personality disorder

In the past, antisocial personality disorder was thought to be a lifelong disorder, but that’s not always the case and it can sometimes be managed and treated.

Evidence suggests behaviour can improve over time with therapy, even if core characteristics such as lack of empathy remain.

No, it’s definitely not normal to murder someone, but also, you definitely don’t have the authority to say he’s definitely beyond ANY help. That’s the part I find ridiculous, not the part where you think there’s something wrong with him. Of course there’s something wrong with him; he stabbed someone to death. The point is that despite murder being a horrific crime, as a society, we have moved past defining people as singularly evil for all killings.

If he did not know the kid, this isn’t even probably murder — it’s manslaughter. And if crimes of passion basically are things that you consider evidence of people being “outside ANY possible help”, then what, should we just start killing anyone who kills another person? Don’t listen to any reason, anything, just the death penalty for them, even if it was an accident? (Which this obviously wasn’t but this wasn’t premeditated either, meaning it’s not legally murder, that’s just a way for us to emphasise the horrific nature of the crime.)

Here. https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/teippasi-uhrin-painonnostotankoon-ja-upotti-jokeen-paasee-ehdonalaiseen/3336726 it’s a Finnish article, title translates as: “Taped victim to a weightlifting pole and sunk them into a river - gets free on parole.”

When he got out on parole, he moved to the building I lived in. He made friends with me (because I was the weeder in a building of grannies). By that time he was already 50 something I think. Very polite, pretty nice guy to be around, never felt threatened. Made good food. And he asked me about a pound of meth that someone stole from the storage that I too had access to (not his cabin specifically, but the room the locked shacks/cabins are in). Now even back then I had driven a taxi for years in Finland, and knew all manners of criminals. This murderer (who actually did murder as it was premeditated, unlike the kid) definitely got rehabilitated to at least some extent. Never killed anyone again, that we know of, and I don’t doubt he did. He did beat one guy up, but that guy really had it coming and I don’t believe in violence. And I do mean he really had it coming. More sort of a vigilante thing, not random violence. And totally justified. I won’t go into details about that though. I get that this paragraph is now a pretty poor argument from the reader’s point of view, but trustmebro, he was alright, and prison had definitely changed him a lot as a person. Neatest dude I ever knew, spotless apartment, kitchen, fridge. Ate healthy, exercised. Then he got a bit too much into meth again at the time I moved out of the building and then I didn’t really hear from him until he was dead, but he definitely didn’t at least get convicted of killing anyone during those last few years.

The point I’m making is most criminals can be rehabilitated to quite an extent, even if not “completely”. To the extent that they understand not to pull of shit like stabbing people, at least. The kid probably has no idea of the hell he unleashed on his own life. And once he gets to feel that for a few years, I think he’ll be humbled a bit. So I would not say that he is “definitely beyond ANY help”.

It’s worth it to try

That’s very much my point. My point isn’t that teenagers are especially murder-y, but that they’re somewhat especially emotional.

So the other guy giving up on him before he’s even had a fully developed brain is sad to me. Perhaps he’s a violent shit who will stay a violent shit, and in that case he should remain confined, but like you said, it’s worth it to try to help him.

We can’t fix our society until the government stops prioritizing profit over health and education.