All those folks in the 50+ age group that grew up with “Russia is enemy #1” are probably cycling through waves of intense work and prolonged orgasm.

I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the first things considered in strategizing any armed conflict is whether they want Russia and China to know that we have X or are capable of Y. Russia has shown their hand. If they could do more, they would have by now.

It has also taught NATO that Russia is still in the barbaric tactics mindset. Hospitals, schools, churches, shipping centers - they’re all valid targets. If Russia wants a position, they’ll level the entire town. That certainly changes the plans, of anyone thought they would abode by the Geneva Conventions.

Ugh, you just had to say “anti-vax” for most people to know he’s a certified stooge or a turbo-dumbfuck.

I see nothing fnord unusual about it.

Generally, if someone’s being a total asshole so severely that they have to be yeeted with several thousand other unaware bystanders, I expect to see a bunch of examples within the first… 2, maybe 3, links.

If someone can point me to a concise list of examples (actual data), I find it more disturbing that an admin on another server can yeet my account because they make noise on a discord server.I mean, yes, federating is a feature, but why even offer the ability to enroll users? Maybe for a group of friends, or something, but just rando users is nothing but a liability to everyone involved.

Oh, I understand the tactics being used. I was implying that person c was obviously stalking person a and pounced the moment they did something less than perfect.

My guess is there isn’t anything of substance, so person c’s sensitivity got amplified with time and obsessing over whatever is going on, leading them to overreact. But, not c has to double down if they want any chance of being taken seriously if a significant cause to defederate occurs.

I got around 5 links deep for each of the links in the admin’s post, and fuck if I know. There was an argumentative user, but they were articulate and thoughtful. Not dropping slurs or wasting space nonsense, but still bordering on “edgy”. The person pushing the defederation appeared to be bullying them and on a power trip.

It was embarrassing. That’s all I took away. (My opinion can change if someone digs through the shitpiles of nothingness to pull up some actual naughty posts, but that’s not going to be me.)

I almost thought I had written your comment and completely forgot about it. No, I just almost made the exact comment and want that hour of my life back.

If there was some over the top racist rant, I sure didn’t see it. And the admin pushing for the defederation sounds so bizarre. Bizarre is the best word I could come up with because “petty” makes me think it was like high school politics. This is closer to a grade school sandbox argument.

The worst I saw was “defedfags” and it was used in a way that was meant to highlight how they never said anything offensive. Like saying, “If you thought what I said before was offensive, let’s see how you respond to something intended to be negative.”

The crazy thing is that the decision is being made because the admin just liked a post. It’s not even because of the post content - which has nothing controversial and appeared maybe 8 times in my Lemmy/kbin feed yesterday.

Editing to add that this is the article: https://kbin.social/search?q=wakeup+call

Agreed. I’m in my 40s, and I’ve never seen anywhere near the level of subsurface signaling and intentional complacency we’re experiencing now.

Well, terrorists became boring, and they still want the loony wing of the GOP’s clicks, so best to back off on Nazis and pro-Russians, leaving pedophiles as the safest bet.

Thank you so much for this! It reminded me to revisit my library’s general resources and look specifically for which archive collections they had available. I’m 1 state over, so I figured there was a good chance we would have Newspapers.com Library Edition access here.

The main/default collection my library sent me to was no help, but they had a Newspapers.com Library Edition portal listed further down. Final-fucking-ly got it. I really, really appreciate the help.

I’m sure it’s a fine service, if you want to use it regularly, but I just wanted 1 tiny thing. If they had a $1 for an obit or a page deal, sure. Instead, there’s this whole microcosm of bullshit where some are archived, others available, some omitted from public collections, some on different 3rd party sites, etc.

The family paid for an obit. It wasn’t in the 1800s. The paper has been digitized. I should be able to go to the paper with the name, exact date, and city and find it. They literally say it doesn’t exist. Not that it’s on our archive site or our partner site, just nothing.

I would have thrown a couple bucks to any of the sites for access, but no, I need to sign up for a subscription, give them all my details, get spam calls for the next 100 years, just no. Super frustrating.

“Black Company” fighting the good fight, it seems.

I totally agree on the first point, and might have a response in this thread stating much the same.

On the federation/syncing, I think it might need a more unique approach. Communities already have the problem of multiple posts linking the same article across several instances and communities, which don’t sync comments. Making sure the complete wiki for a given community is resilient to instances defederating, shutting down, or vandalizing should be top priority, IMO. I don’t know what the solution is, but I think we should be open to it looking different from the basic Lemmy sync setup.

For example, the wiki/extracted posts don’t really need to sync as quickly as thread comments. Also, there should be some form of versioning in case of a credentials bug, hack, or intentional mass deletion or vandalism. We could aggregate points of conflict between instances/communities in a topic’s main thread/stream/article and assign some for of weighting alongside the choice to continue reading from a particular wiki, which are return to the original thread/stream/article.

So, in the Biden-lizard example, the primary Biden entry that’s synced everywhere could have a “Controversy” section with generally agreed on, real issues (like age, which is true for almost all US politicians) and fringe disagreements. Each fringe entry in the list would link to the page synced between instances that subscribe to those beliefs, but that page would not be a part of the larger synced Biden pages’ contents. That keeps the lizard lovers’ content off the larger, community-focused instances.

I guess I’m worried about conspiracy theories pulling users of the ‘realistic’ path, while increasing load on dissenting instances. I don’t think Biden’s a lizardman, so I shouldn’t have to host the 12 hour long documentary on it. (We all know he’s a reincarnated demon-angel hybrid. Oh, so now you don’t agree? Fine, I’ll host my 36 part finger puppet reenactment of the situation myself!)

Anyhow, I’m kinda babbling. These are just some general ideas off the cuff I wanted to get out there. I’m not a mod or an admin, so I’m hoping to get the conversation restarted among those with the ability to enact some of these changes. Reddit is still a knowledgebase of useful past discussions, and while new content is great, the more we can pull into the fediverse, the better.

Yup, but this is to prevent me from getting lazy and putting off creating the post until “later”. (Where later = never) It also reduced things like tag typos and incomplete entries.

There are lots of details to be ironed out if we go the wiki way, which is why I think the tagged route would be the best start. Start getting the data and develop the larger structure over time. Once we need the data to populate the wikis/dbs/whatever, any mod can filter the posts pretty easily.

Other problems I see happening - conflicts between mods on entries, keep or throw out entries when an instance defederates (the c/politics folks might not want the entries on Biden being a lizardman from Nova Scotia, but c/iliketohitmyheadwithbricks does), bad blood if some mods want tighter control over wiki content, syncing when federating impact if larger media elements added, multiple wikis covering multiple topics while there are multiple instances covering multiple topics (multiplicative duplication due to the multiple hierarchies of equal importance), and I’m sure plenty more.

It would seem strange to users not keeping up with all the Lemmy/kbin meta to see a post that asks and then answers it’s own question.

I’m more concerned about folks wanting to filter out these posts more than worried about confusion, though.

Yeah. Sounds like a good idea for a browser add on.

It places a button by the post’s title.
Click that and it asks you to click the relevant replies.
It prompts for any additional tags (autotags RDX and subreddit name)
When you’re done it fills in the title, body, tags of a new Lemmy thread and sends the archive request to whatever service they set.

I’m thinking more in terms of syncing and storage. It all depends on how it’s implemented. Does each community have a wiki that’s synced with individual users’ wikis? A separate wiki per instance? How to handle edit conflicts, etc.

You’re right that just making a wiki isn’t too tough, but in the case of decentralized, editable, moderated content, it’s probably different enough to warrant an approach significantly different from a traditional, single site/many edit centralized version.

(We could always temporarily have a centralized wiki and roadmap out the transition later, too.)

I wonder if that was born of the Dogecoin tipping system that was around for a while in… 2017/2018? I forget.

I’m pretty sure they thought the awards/gilding was going to be their best bet to Moneyville after Premium flopped. It’s basically just a rebranding with the ability to gift it.

Since the Snoopocalypse I’ve been using it MUCH more. I’m as surprised as anyone, but without Reddit, Google is complete hot garbage. I used to use Google 95% of the time and didn’t realize how many times I gave up and added “reddit” in the query. It’s unusable.

Out of principle, I’ve made SearXNG my default, but I don’t shun Bing at all now. I occasionally use DDG, but anything relatively technical just doesn’t come up much there.