I’d argue they do have organizational skills and and strength in numbers. Don’t underestimate that.

I’m sure other crops have similar issues. Thats why I mentioned sugar and fruit as well. Mostly vegans just avoid animal products.

So you won’t eat honey but will eat almonds, even though both are exploiting honey bees?

Yes.

“Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose”

https://www.vegansociety.com/go-vegan/definition-veganism

Avoiding almonds is much less practical then just avoiding animal products. It’s not practical to avoid certain things. For example, lots of sugar is processed with bone char. However, most vegans don’t worry about that. Also some fruit is coated in shellac to look shiny, but it’s not worth worrying about either.

Do exploitation of animals such as this affect your morals.

Yes. I think that it is exploitation to use honeybees to pollinate crops. However, its way less harmful to animals then the meat, dairy, and egg industries. Therefore it isn’t really worth trying to fight against right now. If anything its a necessary evil now that honeybees are eating into native bee populations, reducing the amount of native bees able to pollinate.

I guess I am mainly raising the question of if your morals ever involve eating meat if it is killed under your ethical compass or if you consider the eating portion unethical in itself.

Using animals as food is exploitation of them. However, its a bit more complex then just saying its unethical as we live in a world where it is so normalized and a lot of places aren’t practical to be vegan in.

How about raising crickets or insects for food? I am guessing against because it follows the sentient plus raised to kill.

Correct.

what about honey? I would by no means consider honeybee conditions unethical. But interested in if you think so.

Even if its not unethical conditions, it is still exploitation of the honeybees. Also, honeybees take resources away from native bee populations. Therefore honeybees are harmful to the environment.

Feral hog would be the best thing I can thing of where it’s something that is a pest that is not too far out of a usual diet. So is that something available to your diet?

No I would not be okay with eating a feral hog. Just as I would not be okay with eating rats, mosquitoes, and ticks. It’s exploitation that isn’t necessary (unless you’re stranded on a deserted island or something). Also feral hogs aren’t really pests. They won’t infest your home and would only be an issue to you if they tried to attack you.

Those things you are still ok killing are sentient still

The difference is that mosquitoes, ticks, and infestations are harming us. Pigs on the other hand are innocent and we simply breed them and slaughter them for greed.

Like is hunting more ethical to raising livestock in your opinion.

I guess you could argue that, but I oppose hunting as well.

Is it really a bad thing to stop abusing animals even if it means the species dies out except for their wild counterparts?

Plants aren’t sentient. Animals are

Is there any animal that is ok to kill

Mosquitoes, ticks, bugs that try to steal/destroy your crops, rat infestations

is there any non-animal it’s not ok to kill?

I mean yeah. You shouldn’t walk into a national park and burn down the prarie. But that’s for conservation reasons, not because the plant is sentient (its not)

Who is talking about animal genocide?

I bet a lot of the animals in animal agriculture wish they were dead. This isn’t a good argument imo

Will it make for happy sheep? Unless they have the veterinarian capacity to take proper care of these 6,000 sheep then they are simply being exploited rather then protected.

Ethically raised ree range grass fed protein

How do you ethically raise a being with the intent to kill them and then send them off to a violent death?

That’s not really a good take though. You don’t need to be intelligent or social to be worthy of the moral consideration to not be eaten. Otherwise we’d be eating babies.

The whole situation aside… what is up with the email skills of the Dutch Olympic Committee? This email is legit worded like a text message or a Lemmy comment

"Steven is NOT a peadophile; you really don’t think that de Dutch NOC would send someone to Paris who IS a real risk? No, he isn’t a risk.”

I don’t know. I was just curious

Oh yeah that’s a weird one. They even made that subreddit just to post those 3 posts

I’ll help you out a bit by permalinking your comment

https://lemmy.world/comment/10661756

It’s public information, mate.

This user has some incredibly weird post history

https://lemmy.world/post/16715624