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Cake day: June 18th, 2023

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  • Unfortunately I am still unable to find any stories that tells what happens to the Hamas members after their surrender. I’m unsure if they get treated well or are sent to the same facilities in which there are reports of human rights violations amounting to psykological and physical torture.

    I did find some examples of successful surenders, but nothing where hostages were explicitly mentioned to have sweetened the deal of surrender.
    I do believe you may be right but I have been unable to verify it myself.


  • Are there any examples of it being used successfully and the aftermath of it? This is a genuine question stemming from my own ignorance on the subject. I would really like for that to be a good way of handeling situations where hostages are released, but I could easily understand why a member of Hamas might have reservations if they do not have reason to trust the system.
    If there is good reason to trust it I will agree that that would have been a viable and good way out and should have been used.


  • To me it sounded like they were specifically pushing against a claim that Hamas offered to free everyone. They pointed out that they only said civilians and as not all hostages would be considered civilians not all hostages would have been freed as another commenter claimed.

    I still see it as them pushing back against an “Hamas was good actually” sentiment, arguing that Hamas was not as good as implied due to a careful reading of the statement and an assessment of the hostages and whether all were civilian or would be considered civilian by Hamas.

    There is a greater context, but the thread in which this was written the context was a push back against claims portraying Hamas favorably.




  • Aah okay, that makes sense. Paulogia does however put forward at least one more person having an experience, possibly due to a grief hallucination. If I remember correctly he suggested Peter being the one to have it.
    I also don’t remember him ever suggesting that the empty tomb is an actual fact in need of explanation. I think he sees it as likely that Jesus would have been unceremoniously put in a mass- or ditch grave as was common for crucifixion victims. The tomb would then be a detail added on later by other christians, likely through narrative evolution.
    I may misremember some of it though, so maybe I should go back and rewatch as well.

    Oh nice! :D





  • Ignorance and overconfidence in one self can lead to decisions that puts one in danger. If he didn’t understand the risks, overestimeted his control over the situation (as very rich people are prone to do) or simply surrounded himself with too many yes-men, then hi might not have thought he put himself in as much danger as he did. On the other hand he could also just see himself as an explorer and seeking rhe thrill as many of the dead bodies on Everest once did.

    I’m sure there are many reasons he could have gone into that sub despite having been told the risk. I of course can’t know for sure, but it does seem more likely in light of his comment than without it.