Definitely Reddit’s buildup was smart. The transition to profitability not so much. Although we’ll see.

Man, remember all those who kept arguing against it? I would say “Reddit is dying”, and these new accounts that had never visited my sub before we decided it should go dark suddenly appeared and started talking crap about anyone who criticized Reddit. That should have been a smoking gun alone for people to realize what was going on. But instead, people just said “yup, that’s Reddit for you”. Which extremely unfortunately… they were right, bc that is what it had become by that time.

i.e., spez didn’t kill Reddit by denying the usage of third-party apps - that was merely the final nail in the coffin for many of us, topping off a process that had begun several years earlier.

This sounds familiar, almost as if history could perhaps, maybe, just possibly… repeat itself? Nah! (says spez)

People will follow the content creators indeed. Right now I’m not sure where they went though. The last I looked, it was basically nowhere, though to the extent that it was anything I thought it was X (even if via a temporary Mastodon intermediate). Musk fed Huffman bad info, which the Musk himself was not doing (or rather, the circumstances were entirely opposite - a public company going private rather than one attempting to make the polar opposition transition), and Huffman was dumb enough to fall for it, then Musk rakes in the rewards for his dirty deed.

Nowadays - or perhaps soon - as you said it might be Bluesky. So trading one corporate landlord for another, but it makes sense - the content creators will go wherever their audience is, and then the latter will in turn mindlessly follow the hoarde, but with an enormous delay measured in high number of months to even years. Plus, content creators need revenue to survive, e.g. how many videos is Ian Danskin (of Innuendo Studios) putting out these days? Then again, how many people especially younger ones even watch 20-30 minute long “video essays”, rather than TikTok(-style) short-form clips?

All the rest: yup.

Over time yes, but then again those most likely to leave have already done so. At this point I don’t expect anymore large exoduses from it, but even if there were I’m not so sure that they would come here.

Conservatives would not feel welcomed in the slightest (nor should they, hey-oh!:-), normies would not feel comfortable due to the heavy need to block every damn thing here just to survive it, and especially the people who think they are leftists (as I once naively thought, with zero evidence I should add!:-P who wants to bother actually looking up definitions of terms? especially if everyone around you is a conservative and thus it makes no functional difference) will find themselves most likely to become dogpiled onto by the people most ah… “eager” to look down upon their fellow human (and some as we so recently and unfortunately discussed go so far as to tell others to kill themselves - highly inappropriate language, especially coming from an instance admin).

So even if some were to leave, where would they go? Twitter is dead, having been eaten from the inside by X and cancelled, then necro-birthed into its current undead existence. And Facebook… just… no. Threads then? Maybe in a few years but either way it’s not comfortable and familiar like Reddit is. So even if people left Reddit, I would expect them to go crawling right back into it, maybe just change their subs or some such. Especially when they roll out subscription model to avoid (some of) the ads, though it’s too soon still as they get people used to them slowly but surely… just like a frog in a pot being cooked slowly (except that’s a false story, bc irl the frog actually does have enough sense to jump out!).

Or maybe they’ll simply touch grass, until they can’t stand that anymore?:-) Playing games rather than talking with people can be a real distraction from the grittiness of life - and then there’s Discord servers that so long as you only want a singular specific game, actually do offer a convenient method to discuss such a focused topic.

So “less profitable”, I guess we’ll see. Probably somewhat less, but substantially so? That I dunno.

this comment in one of the cross-postings seems relevant: https://lemmy.world/comment/13157556

I don’t know how spez manages to do it - it seems fairly obvious to anyone paying attention.

Oh, this comment in one of the cross-postings seems relevant: https://lemmy.world/comment/13157556.

It seems that they are, if he can manage to sell them as people to the advertising firms.

Fuck spez.

I did mention that it was only tangentially related. I did not realize though that programming.dev was not all that old. TIL.

Tangentially, there’s a whole bunch of issues going on with the programming.dev server for one. See at !meta@programming.dev. Lemmy’s upcoming upgrade to 0.19.6 should help - see https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/4623 and https://feddit.org/post/3524876 discussing it.

How many also mentioned how he said that he plans to use violence to remove “the enemy within”, and literally started naming off names, and also organizations (including “the military” ultimately) that could get the job done?

Instead, they seem to prefy discoursing on Trump admiring the other guy’s p5n1s for ten minutes straight.

Here’s an alternative title: “For-profit media refuses to tell “news” and instead sells stories that maximize shareholder value in the short-term, except where that would come into conflict with c-suite value add-ons.” - bonus, or works for all of them, as in literally every single one.

-source

Tbf, I think a certain minimum amount of intelligence is required to even qualify for that statement, which I suspect disqualifies most… but yeah, underneath that, there do seem to be a few, like Jeff Bezos.

Though Donald Trump himself I see more like a monkey doing its thing, as much a symptom as a feed-forward cause of his own. I ain’t saying that he’s not “evil” in his own way, just that he lacks sufficient character for his brand of it to have had any effect at all, if it weren’t for the fact that the systems were so broken to begin with. Money (his father’s in his case) corrupts.

Bold of you to assume that most people even want that. From what I can tell…

YSK that Missouri is going to get worse and worse over time, seeing as how it looks over at states such as Mississippi and says “golly gee willickers, I wanna be more like them!”

Businesses will not move there, some already there will not expand, and some will even outright leave. It will become something of a “healthcare desert”. A profound example that I recall reading about during the pandemic was a doctor in I think it was just east of Springfield (but don’t recall further details of the location). He started a medical center or something along those lines - the point is that he brought in grant funding, a literal job creator. He had just moved there from somewhere else, however upon receiving literal death threats for offering to give people vaccines and before that telling people to wear masks, he left. For the sake of his daughters, it was not worth it to him to try and stay.

On the one hand, if people of good conscience abandon such areas to whoever remains to vote, that affects the country as a whole, especially via the Senate seats, see e.g. Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham, and yes Josh Hawley, who I recall was literally the only one to vote against a particular sex slave trafficking bill - the ONLY ONE!!! But on the other, please take care of yourself too.

I am a bit OOTL - which ones went down? Things like Internet Archive & related to AnimeFLV? I presume new ones will come back though?

You probably do not know b/c reddthat has downvotes disabled, but people are downvoting your comment.

I find it the height of irony that your comment, which is relevant and contributes to the conversation, is receiving the “*I* personally do not like this idea” treatment.

A comment that aims to provide a more balanced perspective, to round out the discussion beyond “things should be the way that I am most comfortable with”, and offering not only logical facts but very relevant personal experience.

Reddit Lemmy can be so toxic sometimes. :-|

In one sense, it is quite good that in this particular case we have made zero progress:-).

And yet a glance at how the Russian army is equipped…

Haha, oh yes, definitely not only not actively growing anymore but fully actively declining instead - those internal politics mattered more than the actual language issues themselves, once again. Every time I see another Python update and how very many things they break, I think that thought again. Tbf newer updates breaking older code happens even with C++ too - backwards compatibility affects just everything - though the whole Python 2 vs. 3 definitely still rankles me.

I guess I’m still having emotional trouble letting it go - but that is an absolutely perfect example of Latin, still spoken yet most definitely also considered “dead” at the same time. I guess this about sums it up:

Fair - and in fact doubly so bc even code that is readable in a language that someone else does not know (well) isn’t so “readable” by definition. i.e. “readable by someone who knows the language” != “readable by most developers”.

Though having to rediscover how our code works is something shared by all languages. Perl does allow the worst there though.

Python is not better in every way, it’s just more general-purpose, so has a wider range of applicability.

Also more people use it, though by that logic we should all be forced to use Windows bc everyone else does as well?

And Perl both still exists and is actively maintained, so it “lost prominence” rather than “died”.