the thing that’s different is that social media has demonstrative harm.

Is that actually a difference?

Rock and roll causes harm: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8580930/

TV causes harm: https://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/too-much-tv-might-be-bad-for-your-brain

Video games cause harm: https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2000/04/video-games

Pretty much everything kids do that their parents didn’t has been “proven” to cause harm. Radio, cinema, comic books, even newspapers were “proven” to harm young people.

Authoritarianism is a far bigger threat than any of these.

Hybrid hard drive. Basically, a hard drive with a large solid state cache.

Actual shipping would vary depending on location, but sellers are padding the shipping charge so they can display a lower unit price.

Shooters keep shooting for as long as they want unless they are forcibly stopped. Number of deaths are directly correlated with the duration of their attack. The sooner the attack is stopped, the fewer total deaths and injuries.

“Run, Hide, Fight” increases any individual’s own survival rate, but paradoxically, “Fight, Hide, Run” increases the survival rate of the entire group, even though it greatly increases risks to the “fighters”.

Try it with a paintball, airsoft, or squirt-gun wielding attacker and unarmed defenders. Tell the group that as soon as they know where the attacker is, charge him. If you don’t know where he is, hide until you figure it out. If there is no place to hide, run away. Count up the “dead”, and it will almost always be substantially lower when the group blitzes the attacker vs. when they try to avoid being killed by the attacker.

Need to add shipping charges to the price…

Ah. Thanks for clarifying.

I must confess, I see no noteworthy comparison. I question their commitment and resolve.

What part of that is remotely comparable to the car dealership and gas station in Kenosha?

Their actions are effective at getting legislative action against protests and impeding travel. Their effects on stopping oil, however, have been somewhere between “completely ineffective” and “counterproductive”.

The reason people have a hard time believing their actions are effective is because their actions are not at all effective.

Their actions are damaging the cause. They are making it harder for environmental activism to be taken seriously. Now, actual activism has to fight not just the oil industry, but also everyone that JSO has pissed off.

Suspended sentence. She only spends 4 months in jail if she breaks the law again.

Well, no repercussions from the government. But the government is not the only entity capable of creating repercussions.

I heard about a car dealership and gas stations being lit on fire by protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin. When did JSO protesters do something similar?

I’m not sure how you managed to misunderstand, but by disruptions I was referring to precisely the kind of disruptions of the lives of ordinary people that - and I’m sure we can at least agree on this - they have quite successfully caused.

I agree, they’ve done a bangup job bringing attention to the ongoing fight against jaywalking.

Against oil, not so much.

JSO “martyrs” are for the cause of free speech, not against oil. JSO is distracting people from oil. JSO is diverting legislative attention away from oil.

I suggest you stop reading articles, and start looking at reality. The reality is that JSO has demonstrated they are as effective at “disrupting” the oil industry as the Westboro Baptist Church has been at “disrupting” homosexuality: not the fuck at all.

That’s what JSO is doing. thinks they are doing, despite all evidence to the contrary.

FTFY.

I’ll note that nobody in this thread has yet made a single comment promoting a specific political action against oil. Your last comment comes the closest, but even that doesn’t even qualify as a “concept of a plan”.

JSO isn’t inspiring people to talk about oil. They are inspiring people to talk about the limits of free speech, and the preservation of the right to travel. They’ve inspired legislators to act, just not in any way that would actually affect the oil industry. JSO has certainly accomplished something with their antics, just not anything that they’ve set out to do.

Again, direct action against the oil industry. Exploit it’s soft targets, raise the cost of oil, make alternatives relatively cheaper, and watch the problem disappear.

Sorry. Can’t. Stuck in traffic.

I’ll DM you my ex wife’s info. She can teach you how to accomplish your goal.

So close, yet so far away…

Political pressure leads to action that targets the oil industry the protesters.

FTFY.

The only thing they have actually achieved is enhanced enforcement and penalties for impeding traffic.

Switching to an electric car doesn’t get them out of a JSO-sponsored traffic jam. Nothing about the JSO actions provides any incentive for the consumer to actually do anything about oil.

You take out the gas stations, you’ll actually be inconveniencing the consumers who still use them. And only those consumers. Everyone else is untouched. You’re also promoting the remaining shops that don’t offer fossil fuels, by removing their competition. You won’t be interfering with the ambulances and electric cars either.

Consumers will get the hint that oil is under indictment, and factor that into their next car buying decision. That doesn’t happen when an electric car doesn’t get them past a JSO traffic jam.

"do something, anything as long as it doesn’t affect me actually targets the oil industry.

FTFY.