No, I am against the prohibition of common terms, I advocate for a stricter declaration of ingredients. “Milk” alone could be milk from any mammal, cow, goat, human. Steak could be a cut from any animal, that is why a the animal it is from is declared. Oat milk is called milk since centuries but now the industry fears competition and is publishing propaganda and pays lobbyism for restrictive laws.
Right, but ‘steak’ does mean a little more than that. It also would indicate a particular kind of cut of meat, which would generally indicate minimal connective tissue, tenderness, location, etc.
So as long as it has “steak” written on it you just care that is any animal with those properties?
Would you like ‘meat-free’ labels allowed on foods that had absolutely no muscle-tissue content, but did contain animal organ, bone, and fat content?
I want a strong indicator that a product contains any animal products. There are already many labels for plant based products but none are required by any law.
I am in strong favor a big prominent “contains animal products” label. It would make live so much easier.
Do you buy “steak” as in a generic description for something from any animal, or do you buy bison, camel, goat or horse steak? I have only seen plant based steaks or schnitzel where it has it in the name. “Plant based product” or “product based on soy/pea”
Another way to protect the rainforest is to stop supporting the main driver of deforestation, the animal industry. https://ourworldindata.org/what-are-drivers-deforestation
If not needing some ruler who dictates me how to behave makes me superior, I take it.
Maybe it is more of a sexual thing for you when you want somebody to tell you what to do? Have you been a bad consoomer? Do you need to be punished with veggies?
How weak has one to be to call for a strong ruler who forbids them to kill others for pleasure when they could chose it any day…
No further questions, I don’t debate those who prefer fascism over personal responsibility.
So you are vegan, or do you need a strong figure in your life to force the change upon you that you want to see?
Or do you use the “but not everyone” as a excuse for your behavior?
Cut subsidies to meat. Tax carbon.
This is one part of their recommendations, cut meat subsidies and use it for plant based food, have you not read the report? Or do you wish that they use nukes to force it?
I feel misrepresented. The harm caused by road construction and driving is not intended, but accepted. It’s part of the whole package, which is the part which is intended.
Do you think we could say the same if kill a worm by tiling the soil for plants? as not intended but accepted? That is the hole point, it is accepted side effect. But the killing of a cow is the main goal in the animal industry, not a side effect.
Can we? I mean, agriculture is intentional
That is like saying the intention of driving is killing kids on the street because it happens. Is the intention of wearing cloth to slave others? Is the intention of buying meat to kill children?
Animal industry is paying for murder and abuse, there is no way about it. It is what you pay for. That is the deal, your money their lives.
There is no zero kill diet
Occasionally, some vegans bring up this idea and react very sensitive when confronted with how it’s false.
Maybe they have a hard time to explain the difference between intentional raising, raping and killing versus the death of critters, which meat carries many times more because feed production uses more plants than eating plants directly. But unless you are a monk and care about every step you take and grow your own no impact is delusional. Everything we use has a impact, every metal, every plastic end every car drive. But we can stop the intentional killing. Maybe a “zero murder” philosophy and not a “zero deaths” way.
But it is cheaper to hire slaves and let them piss in bottles, so you have to accept that as long as robots are not cheaper and faster. As long as robots are not 90% as fast and cheap as humans.
If you choose to compare “fancy plant based capitalism” to reconstructed chicken sludge yes. But then I could compare beans to kobe beef?
Most of the plant based meat-like products are aimed towards meat eaters but a normal plant based diet is cheaper in every part of the world. The poorest people eat way more plants not by choice but because they are economical forced to.
Grass feed ruminants produce more CO2 than starch feed, grass fed is less than 10% in the US and they still get soy from the rain forest feed, its not exclusive.
You compare wild animals to the 90 billions that are killed each year. To give you some scale: https://xkcd.com/1338/
If you care about the climate going vegan has the most impact one can do according to the IPCC. I am vegan and still have enough energy to fight for change on different topics. It is not that that its a excuse to do nothing else, it is just the bare minimum in my eyes.
Is the IPCC vegan propaganda too?
I too eat in the dark.