Why do you think it’s more complicated than a yes or no?

Destroying the Amazon for beef is a better use? Swimming pools are better uses?

As opposed to using them for Bitcoin? Oh yes, 1000%.

The technology is interesting but the people and economics around Crypto is rotten to the core. Crypto as it is today is a shitstain on humanity.

Ummm, all of the examples you gave are actually more reasonable and valuable uses of water than Bitcoin.

SelfAwareWolf is that you?

Could of, should of, would of. I’m not gonna loose sleep on it and I hope your not gonna

You’re opinion? Maybe 3.5 or fewer more

Nothing is literally nothing, Apple could care less about them.

Nothing’s solution is basically getting you to send your messages to them, and they’ll send it through a Mac logged into your Apple ID hence achieving the “blue bubble” lol. Hugely insecure, hacky solution and hardly groundbreaking.

Oh, so it’s only touch that’s broke. No biggie then. Just send messages with the volume buttons via Morse code.

make it available to anyone

To do what?

We’re doomscrolling on Lemmy, so already well on our way.

This is a proppa remake.

What happened to writing the “core” of an app that doesn’t rely on UI then simply writing the front ends for each platform you want to support?

What do you mean? I can’t speak for Slack but I’m sure some degree of business logic / client side logic separation exists.

By the way, what you just described is the essence of cross-platform development, rather than an argument for building apps natively.

simply writing the front ends for each platform you want to support?

But why would you rewrite the “front-end” for each platform if you have one you could just port over? Who is going to pay for those 2x developers and what would be the ROI on this effort?

That’s just three (if you don’t write for a million desktops on Linux).

Is it really so hard to support just three environments with only the UI being tailored for the OS it’s running on?

In Slack’s case I’d wager the answer to be a resounding YES. I don’t think you fully grasp the full scope Slack’s capabilities, and the amount of work involved to build native clients for not just one or two, but three different platforms - it’s definitely not just the “UI”.

Honestly, it just feels like poor tooling and a poor excuse.

Quite the opposite - frameworks like Electron let’s devs with your skillset build with the stack you already know, and abstracts away quite a bit of the cross-platform complexities, which strangely enough is what you are suggesting but also what you are arguing against

It has all this support for native platforms yet it’s always a clunky memory hog

Maybe so but it has improved a lot over time. The app devs share some responsibility too so it’s not all on Electron.

zero effort to respect the design language of the OS it’s running on.

That’s the Dev’s design choice, not a limitation of Electron.

I’m on macOS, I want the app to be a native macOS app. If I wanted it to look like a webpage, or Windows, or Linux GTK then I’d switch to one of those and expect it to match those paradigms.

I don’t disagree but at the end of the day it doesn’t matter to enough people for it to become an issue. People are used to Slack and the way it works.

Moreover the cost of building the same app 2x or 3x simply doesn’t make business sense.

Flutter came to market much later. It wasn’t even a thing when Slack started building using Electron. I’m sure the same applies to Tauri as well.

What about Flutter?

For Slack it does. Building an app via Electron means it’s cross-platform by default, so Slack doesn’t need to invest in separate platform teams to solve the same problem (Windows, macOS, Linux).

Electron also has better support for things like native notifications, video and voice calls, offline capabilities, and to other native APIs etc that are either unsupported or spottily supported via the browser.

Calling Slack a webpage is like calling an office building a room.

Slack is just as much a complex app as anything else even if it’s built on web tech and standards.

??

Slack IS an app.

What’s Twitter?

Let me ask my fellow X-Reys… Dang, it’s down.

Just roll your own lists, that way you know where exactly the info is coming from, less risk of fake news. Kinda like making your own food at home vs eating out!

I like Axios for news, and News Minimalist which uses LLM to de-sensationalize news articles. Ars Technica for tech stuff.

Feeder is a nice RSS reader that works well for me.

My point is with this legislation we effectively removed news outlets from the “source pool”, and all the remaining sources you can rely on Facebook is the questionable ones.