This is hilarious tbh. Please don’t get me wrong, I really feel for the mods who put so much time and energy into the sub (all subs for that matter). It sucks.
But god, watching reddit implode feels so fucking good. Spez is an abrasive asshole and, it turns out, also a moron, and it’s nice to see his web site fall from grace so publicly.
I can’t wait to see their IPO fail dismally, at least I hope so.
I don’t think it will. They will go with the “single greatest resource for AI data” angle and make bank. They aren’t ignoring this backlash just to kill some apps.
Yeah, which is precisely why it’s important to ruin the product with random spam, racism, overly sexual comments, lorem ipsum and for good measure some fetish porn and gore images.
Wasn’t Microsoft training an AI from Twitter and it basically turned into the aforementioned garbage?
I doubt that companies would enjoy to train their models on a foul dataset filled with nonsense, hatred, porn and gore.
I guess this could be a way to finally create that genocidal AI everybody keeps promising us is definately coming.
at least I hope so.
I don’t think it will.
Sorry for refusing to participate in this extremely gay “fuck u/spez!” circlejerk, but at this point it seems clear that they won.
Oh, well. Lemmy works just fine. Can we move on now?
Dopamine-addled zoomers when something takes more than 5 seconds to happen:
it’ll never happen!
People on the Internet who refuse to consider outcomes they don’t want to be true:
He’s a Zoomer! He’s dumb!
Just for the record:
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I’m a Millenial
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If Reddit’s IPO fails, great! You won’t see me complaining.
I don’t see it failing, but if it does, I’ll happily be wrong.
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AOL and Yahoo still exists and their CEO didn’t make a sobbing tiktok video inside their car, which means they won!
Downvoted only for your shitty use of the term “gay”. Everything else I agree with.
They’re shooting themselves in the face, but the gun won’t go off until Friday. They’re kicking out everyone who is addicted to the site enough to install a third party app for it. I really hope that RIF and Apollo redirect people to Lemmy after this weekend.
Hey, I hope it dies too. Reddit sucks.
It really could go either way at this point though.
Oh man, the real Armageddon’s gonna start when the 3PAs die. No more Reddit for me afterwards.
Christian announcing Reddit for Lemmy/Kbin would be icing on the cake, but I just don’t see that happening.
Mlem is the spiritual successor to Apollo. In the beta and it’s been wonderful to use.
Spez is an abrasive asshole and, it turns out, also a moron
Is he really abrasive? I haven’t seen him say anything outside of what I’d expect an exec of a company to say.
Is he really a moron? Dude is walking away with a lot of zeros in his bank account. From what I can tell, it sounds like he’s pretty happy with the outcome.
is he really abrasive?
Spez is a liar, a cheat and a habitual editor of comments that insult him. He’s also incredibly petty and rude.
is he really a moron?
He hired 2,000 employees to run a site like Reddit, has effectively destroyed the website’s image and the ongoing protests have revealed to people why it’s such a shitty investment.
His riches are all luck, not brains; he can’t even sell one of the most visited sites in the world without gutting it first.
Let’s not forget that Daddy Elon is his biggest hero and Reddit could become a shit show like Twitter.
Yeah, let’s not forget that he’s a Musk fanboy and probably believes all the shit he said about Twitter.
He’s also a doomsday prepper who believes he’ll be some sort of ‘leader’
God I’m so tired of seeing people equate being rich with not being a fucking moron.
Right-wing brainrot, the rich have to be successful, otherwise why were they licking those boots?
Right.
People aren’t smart because they stumbled into a handful of zeros. Everyone blows Musk but he was just born into blood diamond money. He didn’t actually do anything. Neither did Spez, he just makes money off other people’s content.
Strip all these CEOs of their extra zeros, strip them of their user generated content, then ask them to rebuild their wealth by actually providing a good or service and watch them flop.
See, that’s the thing. I’m not a fan of Musk or Spez, and I never claimed to be.
Ultimately I think Elon Musk gets a ludicrous amount of attention.
My whole point was that (a) it seems like Spez doesn’t care, which really begs the question of how much energy this is worth investing in and (b) people in his position often get what they want (money) because they have to deal with this exact kind of situation.
If Reddit dies, it dies, and I’ll consider myself wrong. If Spez totally gets owned and loses, great!
Either way, I think it’s ok to move on.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if they expected this reaction.
Anyway, Lemmy is fine; it’s a nice alternative. I’d rather just let Reddit go in whatever direction it ends up going in than keep getting angry about it.
I’m glad that there is an alternative. Maybe we can try and learn from Reddit and do what we can to prevent Lemmy from going in that direction, yeah?
One word: Trump.
God, I’m so tired of seeing people deduce false conclusions from statements they don’t want to hear.
Fuck off, Steve
Lol. I’m literally on your side bro.
- Known liar, SteveOk, I understand. You’re dim.
Fair enough.
So one individual’s bank account is more valuable than a community for millions world wide?
Death of the Commons in deed indeed.
So one individual’s bank account is more valuable than a community for millions world wide?
Lol, no. Where did I even insinuate that?
By justifing Spez’s actions as smart.
They are smart for his bank account.
They are not smart for the future of reddit and its users. Not to mention the effect of destroying the knowledge transfer and denying people the curated resources to improve their lives.
By justifing Spez’s actions as smart.
Where am I justifying what he’s done, though.
I’m not saying his actions are smart. I’m saying they’re not “dumb”. I’m saying they’re practically expected.
That’s the environment we’re working with at the moment.
He made a play that got him what he wanted at the expense of the interests of Reddit’s users.
So did Zuckerberg with Facebook. So did Tim Cook with Apple.
This is nothing new - it’s the same old, battered story of a CEO fucking over its users for their own gain as well as the gain of their shareholders.
They do not care about long term outcomes. They can afford to not care. They do not give a fuck about anything that you give a fuck about, and they definitely don’t play by the rules you play by.
Calling them “dumb” is like throwing a rock at a killer robot who’s out to destroy you: not only does it do absolutely fucking nothing, you just spent energy and time that went nowhere.
And then you have the people telling the rock throwers not to do that, but then the rock throwers flip out and throw rocks at them.
The idea that forcing subs to go “dark” is going to reverse anything is also ludicrous.
They can do whatever the fuck they want with Reddit, and they have their reasons (good or bad, for better or worse).
They also don’t care what you have to say about it, because at this point, your interests are fundamentally at odds with theirs.
Gotta make money for when the world ends.
Can we find his bunker and take turns shitting in it?
“Sure, we may have killed the planet but for a beautiful moment in time, we created a lot of value for our shareholders”
That dude is pathetic.
It’s like when they replace a character with a worse version in a show.
This is more of a game of thrones when the bad guys win scenario
This guy is another level of pathetic, holy fuck, what a fucking tool, absolutely no integrity.
Incoming revolving door of Mods who get burnt.
The line of people who want the authority but whom cannot handle the responsibility extends around the block.
Mod turnover will go through the roof. Make no mistake, this is not an untried strategy from Reddit. You get rid off those who can do the job well but are not on-board, you replace them with sycophants who cannot do the job but will toe the line. When shit goes south you hang them out to dry and get in the new batch. Very well known corporate strategy.
I have zero modding experience, but I know that doing the job well would be harder (and more time consuming) than it looks.
I’m guessing that most new mods that reddit will end up with just want the “power” but will fall on their faces when it comes to performance. I’m grateful to the good mods on every site/sub/instance who do it for free. Thanks, everyone!
You are exactly right. Those signing up don’t know what they are signing up for. They just want the perceived power that comes with the title.
Hence my comment about seeing a revolving door of mods in the near future.
I’ve modded a fair few subs. It’s difficult, boring and thankless work for no reward beyond the satisfaction of smoothly running a community you’re passionate about…or power tripping, for those who’re into that.
Most people who end up becoming mods will burn out pretty fucking quick. Not to mention, there’ll be cases where a sub requires a certain subject matter expert for mod work and…well, those ain’t easy to find.
Yep, I have experience with volunteer work (not on reddit, in an actual organization with good intended objectives).
The organization is great, we are ALL volunteers, from the directives to the everyday volunteers. ALL money made goes back into making the project reach wider, don’t want to give many details but money goes into giving out free or very accesible education and health-related services to those in need. We have access to the numbers, its all transparent.The coworkers are nice, its a very niche area of work and we all know one another (so you also make connections with some important people in the field). Some of us have long lasting friendships. The directives of the organization are a mix of founders and the longer lasting volunteers that want to take on those roles. All positions are decided by vote of the community, anyone from the community can apply to any role and pitch in their ideas to make it better. We do that every six months.
It opens many many doors for you, can’t begin to count the amount of stuff I learned, the amount of opportunities that stemed from that (internships, jobs, grants… etc) and volunteers get to use all services the organization provides for free (so I got free education, very discounted health-related services for my family, etc.)All this to say this is a nice place with a nice working environment (all things reddit is not), that actually gives voice and opportunities to everyone involved.
All that, and we still can’t make most of our volunteers stay longer than a few months, because when any other compromise comes up, volunteer work is the first thing to go (which is logical, that’s life). So good luck to reddit, getting anyone to stay without the proper tools and right in the middle of the IPO dumpster fireIf you elect me as head mod I promise to only ban people who I don’t like (I hate everyone)
I’m afraid to say I’m a mod on FB lol, but it’s a UK US based weather group that I’m very passionate about with 92k members.
Basically as a mod, never argue with a member, never show a member up to the rest of the group, there are better ways to deal with things other than flat out banning someone. Being a mod should be keeping things under control so the group remains a good place to go. That’s all.
Our main problem is the fake accounts from the Military pilots wanting to speak to the lovely ladies or make you a killing with bitcoin lol.
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His replies to negative feedback is either “deal with it xoxoxo” or “you’re right but I don’t really care lol”.
Something tells me it ain’t gonna work.
This is why their moderators’ best weapon is to not moderate and let all hell break loose. Reddit will then be forced to pull this shit and it’ll go to hell fast. It’s their best weapon, better than going NSFW or dark in protest. Just silently stop moderating and let Reddit and advertisers notice when they aren’t.
Sadly people are quite dedicated to doing work for free for some reason
Well, it’s not a huge mystery or anything…people love the communities they build up. You feel a sense of loyalty to the people and to the idea behind the community.
From the outside looking in, I can see it being “working for free”, but by that measure wouldn’t any instance of you contributing anything that benefits others to be “working for free”?
Half of the tech support knowledge I have comes from people “working for free”.
I think the sad part about Reddit is that there’s still a lot of people that want to hold on to what they’ve built up, and Reddit is banking on that to force them to change.
there’s a difference when its big business cashing the check and not someone else working for free.
I think it’s mostly about wielding power tbh
Totally this. This is a brand spankin’ new mod, hardly someone who has built the community. Heck he snuck up on the lead mod within a matter of hours after being made a mod.
People like you would think that
Well, it’s not a huge mystery or anything…people love the communities they build up. You feel a sense of loyalty to the people and to the idea behind the community.
Dude. Its about power and control. It has little to do with any sense of loyalty. I’m sure there are a few that have some measure of loyalty, but very few mods are doing it because they just love the topic they moderate. They’re doing it because it gives them power and control and they love that. Absolutely no one can convince me otherwise.
I think there’s plenty of mods on both sides of that argument.
Some do love the communities they’ve built up and some just love the power trip in their miserable lives.
I don’t agree, not all mods are power hungry, some subs are what they are today because of their mods.
Whis understandable and actually great! But if they get screwed over by a profit hungry company for doing work for the community.
I wish they had already started doing this. Once the moderators are screwed over and replaced by people who can’t fill their shoes, it’s already too late; those mods are probably never coming back even if Reddit wanted them to. And after the apps stop working on Saturday, the damage will already be done.
This is a good thing, the faster and harder reddit crashes, the more people will move to better platforms which are run not by corporations leaching money from entirely user created content while making the experience actively worse (long before this latest incident).
Reddit backtracking for half a year and turning up the heat slower was the worst case outcome.
True, I just miss how active Reddit was. Hopefully one day Lemmy is just as or more active than Reddit.
It frustrated me when Reddit made the initial decision to screw over app developers. Having done dev work in the past, I know the time that goes in to them so someone asking for a little money in return is the least we can do. But no, Reddit just say “Screw you guys”!
As if that was not enough, they are now showing that they really don’t care about the many moderators that have painstakingly put years of ‘free’ time in to building these communities, the same communities that are the foundation of Reddit!
I am sure we are going to see a lot more of these admin takeovers in the coming weeks and it is the very reason I am over here and why Lemmy is seeing the incredible growth curve. Long may that continue.
I just deleted my account. Welp that’s 15 years gone. Feels good. Tastes like chicken.
It will be back, I have tried deleting my account about 6 times now and it always gets undeleted along with all the content.
Ditto. I’ve been on Reddit since before the big Digg exodus. Cancelled my premium sub and deleted my account on Sunday.
14 years here. Ran it through https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite first, without deleting the account, in case they restore the comments: https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite/issues/43
PS: I know about the implications of potentially removing contributions to the internet. But, I’m not about to go through a decade+ plus of comments and posts in order to find the tiny amount of things that could actually be useful for others.
PS: I know about the implications of potentially removing contributions to the internet.
Reddit does not get to continue to profit off of any contributions I’ve made to the internet, one way or another. Anyone convincing you not to delete comments on reddit is a scab more concerned with maintaining the status quo so they don’t get inconvenienced.
Would love a subreddit drama over here lol
I mean right now it feels like most posts are subreddit drama.
/c/subreddit_drama let’s go!
So he scabs as a total noob first time mod, AND his whole plan is rely on bots that won’t work in a few days and require govt id to mail someone some chips?
Fucking lulz
Shoutout to the mod who just bailed immediately 😂
The moderator with no experience will be more likely to do what they want.
Oof. I read a decent amount of comments, definitely getting shill/snitch/power seeking vibes, add to that the admins…what a shit show
I used to love that sub. Not that I ever actually exchanged snacks, but I thought it was cool that random people would just get together and mail snacks from one side of the world to another.
Ohh so that’s what it is, from the name I thought it would be a meme sub about Stack Exchange
Ohhh… Snacks! I was reading Snakes the whole time I was reading this thread and was really confused! (Curse my brain)
Sounds exactly like the behaviour of a company headed towards an IPO. Keep that dumpster fire burning!
lol Reddit’s death has finally started. Can’t wait to see spez’s asswipe shills bring the whole thing down with their incompetence.
Now that I have some distance from daily reddit, and time in what is really a much better community here, going back there makes me realize how poor quality so much of the content is, both posts and comments.
Yeah, much of Reddit is absolute trash. It’s really hard to find dedicated communities for anything, but most of ‘em are much better than Reddit for everything ‘cept reach.
Really, the only communities I’ll miss are niche hobby communities. The rest of the website could crash and burn for all I care.
The reposts and site culture clichés were already driving me batty. I did get a lot of good info from a couple rather niche communities about chronic illnesses, but they turned into answering the same questions and having the same discussions over and over. I can definitely live without telling another 5,000 people how to get tested for Celiac disease.
Should we start our own subredditdrama? Or is there one? I foresee lots of this kind stuff on the way.
You mean for Reddit drama, or Lemmy drama?
I vote for both!
Just let it burn down at this point. Shorting this stock is going to be easy easy money
I am not a broker, this is not financial advice, don’t sue me if this doesn’t work, etc
Was thinking the same thing earlier.
Remember kids, “the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent”.
Counter-point: just do it, pussy, you’ll be fiiiiine!
r/wallstreetbets has entered the fediverse
Can you short an IPO?
If you’re a mere mortal you have to wait for your broker to have a sufficient number of shares available for shorting. If you’re a giant hedge fund or other financial entity with a blatant disregard for the rules, then sure. You just short the stocks naked and issue a failure to deliver if you can’t locate enough shares to cover.
