• cryptosporidium140@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Did I say it was good or that you could change who your parents are? How is not being allowed to look at race… hurtful to specific races? At a predominantly black high school, does the 1 white kid somehow have the upper hand with college admissions?

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      1 year ago

      Fine the mental gymnastics is to justify why hereditary admission criteria are more acceptable to you not “good”

      Yes the white kid does.

      • The racial biases of whoever runs the admission system
      • The racial biases of teachers at the school
      • The white kid is still more likely to benefit from hereditary admission and insider information on how to do well in admission tests/letter.

      To pretend a white kid in a predominantly black school doesn’t have an advantage in “colorblind” admissions is to deny the existence of systemic racism.

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        I thought colorblind meant they couldn’t see that kid’s race. With AA, your response to racism can only be “hey that’s not the kind of racism we want!” Without AA, racism in admissions is illegal.

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          Without AA, racism in admissions is illegal.

          No positive measure to counteract systemic biases are illegal.

          Hereditary admissions when 80% of previous students were not black, is pretty explicitly racist and still very much legal

          All the implicit systemic biases in the admission system are very much legal

          The only thing you can’t do is ensure black kids get admitted.

          If you have a system and you know its giving you biases results you can compensate for the bias, without understanding every single component bias, that’s what AA was, banning it, is sticking your head in the sand and going back to faux/real Naïvity about how system racism works.

          We might as well start asking “why do black people prefer renting?”, because as a nation we are commited to pretending to not understand that there are systemic reasons for things.

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            when 80% of previous students were not black, is pretty explicitly racist and still very much legal

            Black people only make up 12.6% of the population. If 80% of previous students aren’t black, then black students are heavily over-represented in the student body.

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        The racial biases of whoever runs the admission system

        Can be biased both for or against the student based on who the specific administrators are.

        The racial biases of teachers at the school

        Can be biased both for or against the student based on who the specific teachers are.

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          1 year ago

          Sure buddy, and if you’re too stupid to get into any college you might believe both those have the same chance of happen 🤣

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      Yes. If a white person applies to an HBCU they can get minority scholarships. There was a big story about it a few years ago where a white person wrote about their experience being a minority and turns out being a minority sucks no matter who the majority is.