• lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    Knauff, a veteran of Ontario’s provincial forest firefighting force, has been vegan for over 25 years. In 2017, he was working long hours in tough conditions fighting wildfires in British Columbia. According to non-profit Animal Justice, which campaigns for stronger animal laws, Knauff’s employer failed to provide appropriate vegan meals for him at the basecamp where he was stationed.

    He was often served meals containing animal products, or nutritionally inadequate meals containing no source of protein. Sometimes no food was provided for him at all.

    Despite repeated attempts to work with management to improve the situation, nothing changed.

    After Knauff was disciplined and suspended without pay after expressing his frustration, he sued his employer.

    I gotta side with him on this one. While his is a lifestyle choice, some people do have special dietary needs. If you want people to work in these types of conditions you have to take their needs into consideration.

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      I want to side with him, and I think there is a good argument that he’s right, but yours has a fatal flaw:

      If you want people to work in these types of conditions you have to take their needs into consideration.

      The fact that they fired him indicates they don’t want him to work in these types of conditions. They don’t want the logistics hassle associated with his chosen lifestyle.

      The article claims that repeated attempts were made to negotiate with management to “improve” the situation. Those attempts could be considered negotiations. He may or may not have secured promises from management in exchange for his continued employment. The breaking of those promises could potentially be considered fraud.

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      Some people have medical or religious dietary restrictions. I think the employer would have to accommodate those. Ethical restrictions is a grey area.

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          He argued that veganism was protected as a “creed”. The Ontario Human Rights Code considers 5 factors in determining whether a belief system constitutes a creed. Under that code, a “creed”:

          1. Is sincerely, freely and deeply held
          1. Is integrally linked to a person’s identity, self-definition and fulfilment
          1. Is a particular and comprehensive, overarching system of belief that governs one’s conduct and practices
          1. Addresses ultimate questions of human existence, including ideas about life, purpose, death, and the existence or non-existence of a Creator and/or a higher or different order of existence
          1. Has some “nexus” or connection to an organization or community that professes a shared system of belief.

          Veganism clearly meets 1, 2, and 5, but I’m not quite seeing 3 or 4.

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            I think you could probably argue that ethical veganism is a deeply held belief that humans are not inherently superior to other animals, and that said animals also have emotions, etc.

            This would address 3 as it would definitely govern one’s conduct and practices: not exploiting animals in any way.

            I would also argue that it addresses ultimate questions about human’s place in the living world, partially addressing 4.

            Also, looking at federal law (https://www.justice.gc.ca/fra/sjc-csj/dlc-rfc/ccdl-ccrf/check/art2a.html), looks like “liberté de conscience et de religion” should be interpreted widely:

            La « liberté de conscience et de religion » devrait être interprétée largement et s’étendre aux croyances dictées par la conscience, qu’elles soient fondées sur la religion ou sur une morale laïque et les termes « conscience » et « religion » ne devraient pas être considérés comme tautologiques quand ils peuvent avoir un sens distinct, quoique relié.

            So Ontario’s interpretation here is potentially unconstitutional, especially if their decision hinges on something as minor as what a belief system has to say about a Creator.

            EDIT: Not a vegan at all, but I can understand the ethics.

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      I barely accept religious food preferences and now you want me to accept political food preferences? I eat anything and don’t complain because I’m not a bitch and I’ve experienced literal starvation before.

      What the fuck is this ridiculous amount of entitlement.

      The ONLY appropriate reason for food variety in MRE’s is allergies and so the troops don’t go insane from the constant repetitiveness of one type of trash food over and over.

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        You eat and don’t complain because you don’t care about a thing, not even yourself. It’s not something you should be proud of.