• marcos@lemmy.world
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      All the noise I see is from people insisting that Rust developers are noisy, and their favorite language is much better types-don’t-solve-bugs-undefined-behavior-is-fine-and-memory-errors-are-not-a-problem.

      Actual Rust developers have been silent for years.

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        I once shared that I had a bad first experience with Rust and no less than four Rust developers arrived to inform me that I was either hallucinating, or bad at programming, or both.

        I haven’t had this much fun winding up a sensitive community since I shared how I really felt about Java Spring, in it’s heyday.

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          I suspect there are a lot of “Rust devs” that are little more than kool-aid drinkers. Common refrains are that Rust is the fastest language, most type-safe language, and most powerful language. Rust certainly seems to move the state of the art forward in some ways, but you can still write garbage code in it.

          I’ve worked with lots of different people in lots of different languages, and I think I’d rather good people in a bad language than the other way around by a mile.

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    These trolley problem memes are getting harder and harder to understand

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    C++: you sure you want to do this? This will either: a) blow your foot off b) be too fast to be measured in micro-benchmarks.

    b. B. B. a. then B.

    You have chosen to simultaneously blow your arm off and be the fastest code thing on the planet. Congrats. Yes.

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      Yes. There is already an answer with many votes saying so, but I’ll add myself to the list.

      I don’t have to like all the language, and not even all of the standard library. I learnt C++ with the Qt library, and I still do 99% of my development using Qt because it’s the kind of software that I like to write the most. I can choose the parts that I like the most about the full C++ ecosystem, like most people do (you would have to see how different game development is, for example).

      I’m also learning Rust, and I see nothing wrong with it. It’s just that I see C++ better for the kind of stuff that I need to write (at this time at least).

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        personally I just can’t get over the syntax to even try rust. to me it just looks terrible. I know not everybody agrees though. that and having even longer compile times and no mature gui framework

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    Does the solar power the speaker and the turbine is the power generation? Does this turbine produce more power than the solar powering the speaker?

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      That and the weird aversion to introducing new or useful keywords, or even extending the symbol set that doesn’t even use full ASCII.

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    Seriously. Try publishing anything not written in Rust nowadays and you WILL get multiple “bUt baut mUh rUsT??? 1?1!! 11!1!” Comments.

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    C++ is just as “safe” as Rust if you use modern language features (std::unique_ptr, for instance). I would argue that anyone who says Rust provides better memory safety than C++ most likely is not familiar with modern C++ and still sees the language as “C with classes.”

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      I would argue that anyone who says C++ provides a similar level of memory safety as rust hasn’t done serious development work in either language.