First we have to remove them from power … Yes from that political party … and that party … and the other party
I’m an NDPer and as much as I’d like to think that the NDP are for the people, every party is influenced and controlled by money
Sack the lot of them, let civil servants run the day to day, pick the best lawyers to write laws, have a direct democracy to vote on them (as well as subsequent review votes).
People shit on direct democracy as if it is doomed to fail, and point to things like Brexit as an example of how it won’t work. However, Brexit was a one off vote that had a huge disinformation campaign behind it, and such a campaign cannot be sustained indefinitely for everything. Also, many of the bad votes are basically joke votes; the novelty will quickly wear off when people start seeing that their vote has a direct result.
Long gone are the days where we need to pick someone to go to a central place of governance on our behalf. We pretty much all have the ability to communicate instantly across the entire nation and beyond. Why should we have a “representative” when they don’t actually represent our views?
No shit. I can send $10,000 across the country while taking a shit but internet voting isn’t secure enough?
I want to vote on everything
We can have perfectly secure online voting, if you’re willing for all votes to be public. Or we can have perfectly secure and anonymous voting, if you’re okay with some secret master list. There are very smart people working on cryptographic voting protocols and I think I would love to live in an online-voting-based direct democracy, but as it stands we don’t know how to set that system up.
Maybe we could make publicly known votes work. Athens did it, the early US did it. But there are problems with both intimidation and incentivization, and we’d need some sort of framework to prevent that.
Exactly! I mean, the problems with electronic voting are mostly technological, and thus can be overcome. We also don’t need absolute security for every single vote, especially if we have multiple votes on the same things.
To take the Brexit example, there could have been a subsequent vote about how it should be done, then a last minute vote to decide whether or not to go ahead with the final decision, and then afterwards a vote in review of how it’s going and whether to change course - along with votes on trade agreements and everything else that would be different. Even for people who didn’t vote seriously to begin with, they’re going to take it more seriously as time goes on.
We could have digital voting for most day-to-day things, like local ordinances, but then big decisions can be done securely with paper and pencil (no pens = no swapping for one with disappearing ink).
The thumbnail cuts off the T.
It says “Ax the Rich.”
For me it cuts off most of the way through the x… It’s just “¦ the Rich” for me.
Still works.
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That’s funny, but I suppose could ruffle a few feathers if one doesn’t view the whole image.
The thumbnail looks fine here on my tiny mbin instance. I see on Lemmy it’s indeed cut strangely.
I’d not heard of Canadians.org. Looks like it’s for water for all, climate action for all, pharmacare for all. I can get behind that.
I have to agree. Things have gotten out of hand.
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