I don’t get it. What does my mom’s sexuality have to do with me? Also, why is sleeping with someone that’s ~25 years older something to brag about?

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    For most of human history, and even today, much of our individual identity is heavily tied to our familial identity.

    Saying that someone’s mother is especially promiscuous is basically saying that you can’t trust any claims about what their true family tree is, or that it is that way on purpose.

    The reason the insulter would use themselves as an example is because they clearly don’t have any romantic interest in her.

    It’s less about it being an accomplishment for the insulter, and more about it meaning nothing at all to them. That you may end up with a half-sibling as a consequence of nothing truly significant.

    It’s as if to say that your family’s constituency is so carelessly crafted that the entire reason you exist at all may be that someone offered your mom an Oreo for a handjob and she counter-offered with sex for the whole sleeve.

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      Don’t discount the double effectiveness of simultaneously reinforcing their deep-seated beliefs that their mom was a ho and they may not know their true father. While also evoking the white knite deep-seated defense of honor to defend their strong held belief of their mom as the Madonna, and them as Jesus resultingly.

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      This is it, OP. You just say, “Good one! You know…”, and then paste this entire comment in there.

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    Well, once one in an adult, it becomes a bit silly for sure. But when we’re kids, our parents are often the center of, if not the entirety of, our universe.

    Since it’s something attacking a fundamental building block of our identity (with the obvious caveat that there’s exceptions to almost everything), and allowing someone to attack that is not something you can just shrug off when you’re young, it becomes something bigger than its real import.

    That often lingers into adulthood, where an attack on family is an attack on the self, as a matter of principle. If you allow those attacks to stand without any response, it can be taken as permission to do the same, or worse, again.

    As such, anyone wanting to get a rise out of people can typically rely on mom disses to get the job done.

    Your mom’s sexuality isn’t the core of the attack. That’s just the window dressing to the real purpose, which is saying “you are lesser than me, and can not retaliate effectively when I attempt dominance”. In the case of OP, as everyone knows, their mom is a total slag to begin with. That is regardless of who OP is.

    As far as sleeping with someone older: doesn’t matter; had sex. This is a simple rule of life, that if one is the sort to brag about sex at all, any and all sex is worth bragging about. To wit, I bang your mum then bang your drum. Which is to say that yo mama such a ho that her vag emits hawking radiation.

    In other words, what’s wrong with intercourse between two consenting adults of any age? While it is true that yo mama’s pussy is so old that she queef mummy dust, it does not invalidate her value as a person or sexual partner. Moreover, just because yo mama so ugly tying a pork chop around her neck couldn’t get dogs to play with her, does not mean she is not worthy of a good, deep dicking.

    To the contrary, women of age enough to have a child old enough to ask this very question on a forum such as this likely have had a great deal of sex, and thus is an excellent choice of partner for the discerning gentleman, lady, or other. To rephrase, yo mama such a ho that they call her Chicken Coop because cocks be going in and out all day, so she know the good tricks, and she is so old the Flintstones moved out of her vagina to a better cave where they met the Rubbles.

    There is no shame in your mother. Consider: she is the first person to be in both the NFL and NBA halls of fame for most balls taken to the face. Indeed, she is considered to be the greatest wide receiver ever to take on an entire team by herself. Sadly, she could not qualify as a tight end, as she is such a ho that they used to be called jumpolines before she got on one. Her name on the halls of fame plaques is Peanutbutter because she spreads so easy.

    Besides, take pride that you have earned the envy of others by being such a wonderful person that they can’t throw disses at you directly, and have to throw them at your mom the way I throw her the D every night.


    Believe it or not, there was a serious answer in there.

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    In my opinion the reason it’s supposedly insulting is rooted in misogyny. A woman is the property of her male relatives. When someone sleeps with her without the permission of these relatives, he uses their property without permission, demonstrating his power over them.

    I do realise that many people use this insult because it’s just something you say. But I think it’s worth reflecting about what it actually is you are saying.

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      I think there’s also a power aspect. Your mom is your parent, someone with some power or status over you, so if someone sleeps with her they’re now on the level of your parents, it implies that you’re no longer equal peers but a step-parent/child relationship

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        If this were the case then “I fucked your dad” would be just as common an insult, with all the same connotations.

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          yeah those get thrown around in my friend group sometimes too. I think “i fucked your parent” jokes are usually made by straight dudes (which there’s a lot to unpack there) though, so it’s more common for them to go for the gender they’re attracted to. Not always tho

          I think the person I responded to isn’t wrong, just that it’s not the whole picture. I was/am trying to “yes, and” their comment

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          Instead of, “i fucked your dad,” we tend to say things like, “your dad is so hot!” or suggest someones dad in a game of MFK. I would argue that it’s more cringey because ‘your mama’ jokes are much more common than ‘your daddy’ jokes. Also, unrelated, there seems to be something that really irritates Latino men when you makes jokes about their sister.

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          I feel like most people who would do this (males trying to seem “alpha”) probably wouldn’t be comfortable saying that, for whatever reason.

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            The whatever reason bring that they’d have played themselves because homophobia.

            I imagine the potency of yo mama jokes that focus on banging her, as opposed to accentuating how ugly she is, comes from the discomfort of sexualizing someone that you want to not have sexualized given your intimacy with her. Reframing your mom as a sexual being rewrites the experience of affection with her, for example.

            The ugliness piece devalues someone precious to you.

            I also thinks it’s just a rules of the game that people decide on and then forget. Participating in a game about who will gets upset, everyone implicitly agrees that this is something they can fall prey to having a reaction about. Sort of social game theory

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              I dont think the kind of person who torments you with constant motherly disrespect in school would be fazed by the suggestion that they are homophobic since they only target your mother. That’s not a good gotcha at all, at best they would laugh and agree with you.

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                That bit was regarding why they wouldn’t do the same thing regarding one’s father

                Personally I think it’d be a power move to say I fucked you’re dad

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                  I understand, but the type of teenager who makes so many your mom jokes at your expense you feel compelled to ask if they are homophobic for only targeting your mom and not your dad, would just say “yes 😎”.

                  People with enough self awareness to take the implication in jest wouldnt have been so obnoxious with the yo mama jokes in the first place.

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        This is better analysis then the comment you re responding to IMHO.

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      I think it’s more than that. For some people their mom is their hero for taking care of them and they have a special love for her. Now if someone sleeps with my mom just to brag, the insult is that they did it just to brag about it and I am supposed to be angry because I know it wasn’t genuinely someone who loves her.

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      The other misogynistic element is the Madonna/Whore complex, in my opinion.

      Mothers are often classically viewed as the Madonna (it’s in the name), so they’re good and kind and virtuous.

      However, I’ve insinuated that I fucked your mom, and if your mom has fucked, that means she’s a Whore because a Good Womantm doesn’t have a sexuality. By claiming that I’ve fucked your mom, I’m claiming to have defiled the sacred Madonna and turned her into a profane Whore.

      In other words, saying “I fucked your mom” is basically saying “your mom’s a slut”, and in a worldview where women wanting to fuck is a sign of evil, that’s an insult.

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    Plutarch’s biography of Cicero notes that:

    Again, in a dispute with Cicero, Metellus Nepos asked repeatedly “Who is your father?” “In your case,” said Cicero, “your mother has made the answer to this question rather difficult.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/"Yo_mama"_joke

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    Because it makes them your daddy, like the other hundreds of xbox players that banged your mom.

    It is an edgy ‘your mom’ joke that makes a lot of people angry. People get angry about a lot of stuff that is obviously untrue if it insults their in group like a family or social grouping. It was one of hundreds of illogical insults that took off because it gets a fairly reliable reaction.

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    It’s just a funny comment like, “how’s your wife and my kids” or “say hi to your sister for me.”

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    I’ve always thought all mom disses were dumb af.

    I didn’t run into them until I moved to a new school at 8yo where I guess they were popular and I was just like wtf are you talking about?

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    Do you care about your mom? If not it probably doesn’t hit like a good insult would.

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    People are obsessed with sex and relationships. If who you have sex with, and who others have sex with is important, then it’s one way to take advantage of that to hurt your feelings.

    Anything you care about can be used to insult you with: nationality, ethnicity, sexuality, relationship, status, hobby, intellect, etc.

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      I don’t know if it’s fair to say obsessed when it’s a major part of our programming and one of the big reasons we’re the apex predators on Earth.

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    In my friend group at work, it’s a bit of absurdism because of the 5 of us, 3 of our mothers are literally dead and the other two are emotionally dead. The two emotionally dead ones - stopped talking to our coworkers when one came out as trans and the other was when he left the Mormon church.

    We will substitute in the dead fathers as well, especially if it makes the joke funnier.

    “Your momma’s so old when she tries to hawk tuah, my dick gets dusty.”

    “Whatever, my mom is dust.”

    “My mom probably thinks Hawk Tuah is a gay pop star.”

    “Your dad wishes Hawk Tuah was a gay pop star.”

    And so forth and so on.

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    My mom was like that. 🤣😂

    The publicly available children maintenance service data (UK) suggests that one in three people are calling the wrong person dad (about a third of challenged women claiming child maintenance from a random dude will be shown to be wrong by DNA).

    Mum will try to deny it. Then DNA became a thing for pennies. Join an genealogy fb group and support the broken kids looking for their now-dead fathers.

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      That… seems to be a bit of a leap. You’ve got to assume that challenged women are representative of the whole population. To issue a challenge you probably have some reason to suspect.

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        One in three is not one-in-ten one might expect. And it’s not hundreds it’s thousands of women making false claims for money against male victims.

        We don’t have population (in the statistical sense) data to know for sure. Maybe the passport biometric data will eventually let us know for sure.

        However, there are other individuals involved, usually in the act of conception, not just women.

        “I’m on the pill/implant/coil … you don’t have to wear a condom. Take the condom off.”. A female paedophile teacher has just been jailed here because the baby made it kind-of obvious she was lying. Apparently she got pregnant whilst she was on bail with the same child.